Gentle reminder. Thanks, Diego
On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 12:16 AM, Wayne Stambaugh <stambau...@gmail.com> wrote: > This looks fine to me. Does anyone else have any objections to this > change? > > On 02/25/2018 03:17 PM, Diego Herranz wrote: > >> Thanks for your replies. I think there's a consensus that this needs >> improving and restructuring, but given your emails, it sounds like a big >> task :) >> >> In the meantime, would you accept the attached patch to change the order >> in which "Fabrication Outputs" is listed in the menu? >> >> Before: >> Fabrication Outputs >> Import >> Export >> >> After: >> Import >> Export >> Fabrication Outputs >> >> >> I think that "Fabrication Outputs" is conceptually very similar to >> "Export" and it belongs next to it better than having "Import" in between >> them. >> >> Thanks, >> Diego >> >> >> >> On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 9:01 PM, Wayne Stambaugh <stambau...@gmail.com >> <mailto:stambau...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> I'm open to any solution that improves the current situation. This >> solution seems reasonable as well. I also just noticed that wx >> 3.1.1 was just released and it looks like there have been a lot of >> fixes the various device contexts so some of the work may have >> already been done for us. >> >> On 02/24/2018 03:31 PM, Jon Evans wrote: >> >> I thought the idea was to write a backend for GAL that could >> render onto a wxDC for printing? It seems wise to use the >> wxWidgets printing API rather than bypassing it; so we just need >> to be able to render onto a DC (without using the old XOR tricks >> from the legacy drawing code) >> >> On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 3:26 PM, Jeff Young <j...@rokeby.ie >> <mailto:j...@rokeby.ie> <mailto:j...@rokeby.ie >> <mailto:j...@rokeby.ie>>> wrote: >> >> On the other hand, if we don’t then we have to keep >> carrying around >> a boat-load of Legacy rendering code (because we use that >> for printing). >> >> > On 24 Feb 2018, at 20:16, Wayne Stambaugh >> <stambau...@gmail.com <mailto:stambau...@gmail.com> >> <mailto:stambau...@gmail.com >> >> <mailto:stambau...@gmail.com>>> wrote: >> > >> > There is no plan yet but it has been discussed. The only >> downside is that we will have to write our own print >> handling on >> windows and I'm guessing macos. That's one of the reasons >> no one >> has signed up yet because it will be a large undertaking. >> > >> > On 02/24/2018 02:02 PM, Jon Evans wrote: >> >> Yes I think that's the plan, just needs someone to sign >> up to >> write it :) >> >> On Sat, Feb 24, 2018, 14:00 Andrzej Wolski >> <awolski.ki...@gmail.com <mailto:awolski.ki...@gmail.com> >> <mailto:awolski.ki...@gmail.com <mailto:awolski.ki...@gmail.com>> >> <mailto:awolski.ki...@gmail.com >> <mailto:awolski.ki...@gmail.com> <mailto:awolski.ki...@gmail.com >> <mailto:awolski.ki...@gmail.com>>>> >> wrote: >> >> Cairo have PDF, SVG and Postscript support. I was once >> wondering if >> >> GAL/Cairo could be used for printing. >> >> Andrzej >> >> W dniu 2018-02-24 o 19:24, Jon Evans pisze: >> >>> Yeah, there (at least) three different dialogs that >> all present >> >>> similar things (i.e. a list of layers to include, >> settings, >> etc): >> >>> >> >>> Export->SVG >> >>> Print >> >>> Plot >> >>> >> >>> The Print code for Export->SVG seems to just use >> the same SVG >> >>> plotter, so maybe it's just mostly GUI cleanup that >> is needed. >> >>> >> >>> The main Print code does need an overhaul to use >> something other >> >>> than wxDC for graphics generation (and perhaps >> adding some more >> >>> features to PDF export) >> >>> >> >>> -Jon >> >>> >> >>> On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 1:16 PM, Jeff Young >> <j...@rokeby.ie <mailto:j...@rokeby.ie> >> <mailto:j...@rokeby.ie <mailto:j...@rokeby.ie>> >> >>> <mailto:j...@rokeby.ie <mailto:j...@rokeby.ie> >> <mailto:j...@rokeby.ie <mailto:j...@rokeby.ie>>>> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Plot SVG and Export SVG are different. The >> former goes >> >>> through the Plot code while the later goes >> through the Print >> >>> code. >> >>> >> >>> Do we need both? I haven’t a clue. >> >>> >> >>> It would be nice to clean this stuff up, if >> there is in >> fact a >> >>> clean way to present it. >> >>> >> >>> Cheers, >> >>> Jeff. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>> On 24 Feb 2018, at 14:54, Jon Evans >> <j...@craftyjon.com <mailto:j...@craftyjon.com> >> <mailto:j...@craftyjon.com <mailto:j...@craftyjon.com>> >> >>>> <mailto:j...@craftyjon.com >> <mailto:j...@craftyjon.com> <mailto:j...@craftyjon.com >> <mailto:j...@craftyjon.com>>>> >> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> I agree with this! It has always tripped me up >> when I >> switch >> >>>> back and forth between kicad and other EDA >> tools. >> >>>> >> >>>> On Feb 24, 2018 9:31 AM, "Diego Herranz" >> >>>> <diegoherr...@diegoherranz.com >> <mailto:diegoherr...@diegoherranz.com> >> <mailto:diegoherr...@diegoherranz.com >> <mailto:diegoherr...@diegoherranz.com>> >> >>>> <mailto:diegoherr...@diegoherranz.com >> <mailto:diegoherr...@diegoherranz.com> >> >> <mailto:diegoherr...@diegoherranz.com >> <mailto:diegoherr...@diegoherranz.com>>>> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> Hi, >> >>>> >> >>>> Now that so much work is happening on >> re-structuring >> >>>> menus, I've remembered something I have >> always found >> >>>> weird on pcbnew. >> >>>> >> >>>> "Plot", from wihch you can obtain Gerbers >> is not inside >> >>>> "Fabrication Outputs", but on its own. >> >>>> I find it weird to have the drill option >> inside >> >>>> "Fabrication Outputs" but not the Gerbers >> (they are >> >>>> normally needed together and in fact, you >> can go to >> >>>> "Drill" from "Plot"). >> >>>> >> >>>> If "Plot" was Gerber only, I would >> recommend moving it >> >>>> inside "Fabrication Outputs" straight away >> but >> because it >> >>>> also exports other formats, it's not so >> straightforward. >> >>>> >> >>>> I think ideally we would have: >> >>>> >> >>>> - Fabrication outputs >> >>>> - Gerber... >> >>>> - Drill >> >>>> - ... >> >>>> - Export >> >>>> - STEP >> >>>> - PDF... >> >>>> - Postcript... >> >>>> - DXF... >> >>>> - ... >> >>>> >> >>>> And I have just noticed SVG can be >> obtained from "Plot" >> >>>> or the "Export" submenu. Is it the same? >> >>>> >> >>>> What do you guys think? 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