Since segments in OpenGL can be selected, the semantics are a bit different.  
Select a segment and a ‘G’ near its end gives you get drag-intersection 
behaviour while a ‘G’ in its middle gives you drag-segment.

‘M’ works in both cases as well: ‘M’ near an end gives you move-endpoint; ‘M’ 
in the middle gives you move-segment.

I have my copper trace opacities set at about 55%, and get pretty similar 
transparency to Legacy.  What values are you using?

Cheers,
Jeff.


> On 2 Jan 2018, at 17:18, André S. <list.dev.ki...@nospamail.de> wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I want to add from a users view:
> In the current KiCad 4.0.7 (Windows 64 bit) you can't drag traces in 
> OpenGL/Cairo, only in legacy. (With this I mean: move a segment of a trace 
> and it stays attached to the other segments of the trace (Hotkey: 'G')).
> Hotkey 'M' moves segments in OpenGL but moves 'connections' in Legacy 
> (segments stay connected).
> More often than not I need the behaviour of Legacy and not that of the OpenGL 
> canvas.
> 
> Values are not displayed in OpenGL/Cairo, only in Legacy.
> And "transparency" is better in Legacy. With only 2 layers you can see the 
> traces on the bottom layer better than in OpenGL/Cairo. 
> 
> Just for this few reasons I still use Legacy more often than OpenGL when 
> modifying an existing PCB design.
> 
> From my view OpenGL is nice because you can manipulate single items (segments 
> of traces) better/more comfortably than in Legacy. And initial layout work 
> feels smoother.
> 
> Just my 2 cents. :)
> 
> Happy new year,
>   André
> 
> PS: as a side note: When I switch from "Standard/Legacy" or OpenGL to Cairo 
> the PCB view goes white and only after a few seconds displays the PCB. In the 
> other direction there is no delay.
> 
> Am 2017-12-31 um 22:28 schrieb Jon Evans:
>> For your consideration, a patch is attached that implements the above.
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 2:24 PM, Jon Evans <j...@craftyjon.com 
>> <mailto:j...@craftyjon.com>> wrote:
>> I think that getting automatic OpenGL detection and recovery working for 5.0 
>> might be ambitious.
>> Maybe Chris can detail what the next steps are for his approach there, but 
>> in case we want to push that to a later release, here's what I propose:
>> 
>> 1) Rename the View menu options based on my proposal "Legacy", "Modern 
>> (Accelerated)", "Modern (Fallback)"
>> 2) Change PCB_BASE_FRAME::SwitchCanvas to save the canvas config value after 
>> calling UseGalCanvas() rather than before.
>> 3) Show a first-run dialog like the mockup in my earlier email, IF canvas is 
>> not OpenGL and the dialog has not been shown before
>> 44) If user clicks "yes" in the first run dialog, then:
>>     (a) set the config value to prevent the dialog from showing again,
>>     (b) Set the canvas config setting to Cairo (but don't switch the GAL to 
>> Cairo), then
>>     (c) switch to OpenGL canvas using SwitchCanvas()
>> 
>> That way, if the app crashes in step 4c, it should come back up as Cairo on 
>> the next launch (assuming we crash right away when trying to set up the 
>> canvas)
>> 
>> Any concerns with the above?
>> 
>> -Jon
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 1:55 PM, Jeff Young <j...@rokeby.ie 
>> <mailto:j...@rokeby.ie>> wrote:
>> +1
>> 
>> No menu items.  Just a checkbox for Enable Hardware Acceleration in 
>> Preferences.
>> 
>>> On 31 Dec 2017, at 18:36, Andy Peters <de...@latke.net 
>>> <mailto:de...@latke.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> - In the case of graphics glitches, inform the users in the FAQ/Manual
>>>> that they can fall back to software renderer in the View menu.
>>>> - Don't use the term 'canvas' or 'view'. Just 'Enable HW acceleration’.
>>> 
>>> I like that. The fewer technical/programmer terms, the better.
>> 
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