You can see a bit of how Zuken CR-8000 implements it in this demo video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sz65OUE48sI
I have played with their software a bit when we were considering it for purchase... they have a unified graphics engine for 2D and 3D editing, so you can seamlessly switch between the two. Routing in 3D is kind of a gimmick IMHO but placement in 3D can be quite useful when you are packing things tightly and have proper 3D models of parts. -Jon On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 10:20 AM, Wayne Stambaugh <stambau...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 12/19/2017 10:45 PM, Jon Evans wrote: > > I would file a bug report for this. > > > > There is actually an underlying problem that is going to keep causing > > little things like this to pop up... > > The GAL / tool framework doesn't have a transform matrix applied between > > the user inputs and the world coordinate system. > > > > When the Flip Board view is active, the world coordinates are flipped at > > the output stage (when being sent to the renderer). > > But, anything that modifies the view in world space (like the scrollbar, > > but also actions like aligning objects to each other, moving them around > > with the cursor, etc) is going to be backwards. > > This is currently solved in the align tool and > > PCBNEW_CONTROL::CursorControl by checking for IsMirroredX and flipping > > the coordinates around in that case. > > > > A better approach would be to insert some kind of transform matrix for > > actions that are supposed to take place from the perspective of the > > "camera", so that "right" is always "right" and "left" is always "left". > > Not only would this eliminate a whole category of bugs, but it would > > allow for easy addition of additional view options besides "flip board" > > -- some advanced tools have the ability to view the board at arbitrary > > 90-degree rotations as well, which is a great feature. > > This certainly would be a cleaner solution to the problem than adding > code to every tool and/or object to check if the board view is flipped. > > > > > (it would even open the door to editing the board in 3D, since you could > > transform coordinates in arbitrary 3D space into the appropriate > > movements in the 2D board world coordinates) > > I'm not sure how this would work in practice but it would be a really > cool feature. > > > > > -Jon > > > > On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 10:30 PM, Henner Zeller <h.zel...@acm.org > > <mailto:h.zel...@acm.org>> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > I just tried the 'Flip Board View' feature. Neat - but is it > > intentional that the horizontal scrollbar now works, uhm, inversed ? > > It feels very unintuitive ... > > > > Cheers, > > -h > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > > <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> > > Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net > > <mailto:kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net> > > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > > <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> > > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > <https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp> > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > > Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net > > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >
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