Stevn,

My position in term of electronic design is 180 degrees from yours.
When many engineering hours are spent design a manufacturable board,
you do not want some bean counter change the BOM in a whim.
So in order to control the proper life of a design, you want the schematic
to contain the exact parts which were used be the design team to create
a working, manufacturable board. The only way to do that is to have the
purchased part number be part of the design database.
I have seen too many design failing on the field because someone in the supply 
chain
thought that it would be smart to use a new supplier for a part without
the design team approval of the new part.

But that is just my opinion based on 40 plus years of high and low volume
electronic manufacturing.

My $0.02,
Jean-Paul
N1JPL



> On May 13, 2017, at 8:46 AM, Strontium <strnty...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I agree with this decision as well but for different reasons.
> 
> The more I get into small scale self manufacturing, the more I am persuaded 
> by the argument that you want to keep as little BoM information in the Kicad 
> schematic fields as reasonably possible. It becomes a maintenance nightmare, 
> an external BoM tool is what is needed which bridges Kicads schematic 
> information and true BoM part information.  If you are making one or two 
> boards you can store it all inside your schematic, but go to 3 or 4 and you 
> quickly feel like you are crushing rocks re-entering the same information for 
> the same components all over again.  And if you want to change something, 
> then you have to do it for every component you have of that part, in every 
> schematic that uses it. Then you have equivalents, costings, inventory 
> control, supplier information, etc etc. It quickly becomes unmanageable if 
> you try and hold this information in a schematic.
> 
> If you are trying to generate a CSV or TSV to upload to Mouser for costing, 
> it will be subtly different to what a contract manufacturer will want from 
> you, etc.  Because of this, no two designers will come up with the same 
> scheme to specify this BoM information, it will depend what they want to use 
> it for.
> 
> Its better to store an abstract or general piece of information in the 
> schematic which can be used by an external BoM tool to generate a true BoM 
> for you, in the format/s you or your manufacturer require.  And if you are 
> going to do that, its just as easy to directly read the schematic files, as 
> it is to read a BoM exported in CSV format.
> 
> See: https://github.com/KiCad/kicad-library-utils for python code to read a 
> schematic directly.
> 
> Steven
> 
> On 13/05/17 02:18, jp charras wrote:
>> Le 12/05/2017 à 13:55, Oliver Walters a écrit :
>>> This feature was IN this branch of code but was vetoed. It was WYSIWYG BoM 
>>> with export to:
>>> 
>>> *SV
>>> XML
>>> HTML
>>> 
>>> Wayne mentioned that KiCad used to have such a BOM export tool but I 
>>> haven't been using KiCad long
>>> enough to have experienced it.
>>> 
>>> If there is real need for such a feature then I leave that to the project 
>>> leads to decide. I have
>>> the code still, and it could be implemented very easily.
>> Hi Oliver,
>> 
>> As Wayne said, we don't like a BOM export tool *written in C++ inside* the 
>> Kicad code.
>> 
>> Here is the reason:
>> A few years ago, this code was existing and (as Wayne said) created the same 
>> BOM files (txt, csv...)
>> as your code.
>> 
>> What was the result:
>> Roughly ever month, a bug or request was filled to change something in BOM 
>> files.
>> I am guessing we cannot find 2 guys who want the same BOM format or option.
>> 
>> Therefore, the C++ code inside the Kicad code was dropped, and replaced by 
>> external scripts (Python
>> or XSL) to transform the XML netlist created by Kicad to an other list (BOM, 
>> but also other netlist
>> formats).
>> 
>> *Trust me*, this was a *wise* decision (It was not my decision, but was a 
>> good decision).
>> 
>> Therefore: if you want to create the BOM you like, write a Python script to 
>> do that from a netlist
>> (it is easy to run from Eeschema: see the BOM or Netlist generator), but do 
>> not try to merge this
>> code in Kicad C++ sources: your script will never generate the "right" BOM.
>> But a Python script is very easy to modify.
>> 
>> There are already many BOM generators written in Python.
>> 
>> 
> 
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