2015-03-30 0:06 GMT+02:00 Mário Luzeiro <mrluze...@ua.pt>:
>
>> > 1 - Full integrated (with pcbnew and all kicad) 3D designer.
>
>> I don't believe making KiCad a 3D design tool is a good fit for the
>> project.  There are plenty of 3D design tools out there already.  I'm
>> fine with KiCad supporting other 3D model files such as STEP, IGES, etc.
>
> I explained it in a very wrong way. Sorry.
> I full agree with you.
>
>>  One thing that must happen before I will allow too much more 3D
>> development to continue is there needs to be a coherent 3D model library
>> management tool similar in design to the footprint library management
>> design.  The current 3D library management is poorly designed and adding
>> more features on top of it will only continue to exposed it's weaknesses.
>
> Exactly, thats what I mean for "3D design" of the board... not the 3D models 
> it self.
>
> Also, If you watch that videos from Mentor Graphics, you will see that you 
> can use the 3D to place the components in the board, and thats what I mean 
> for a "full integration",
> There are other softwares that have some management and proper way to add the 
> components and place it in the footprint... and then.. place it in the 
> board... and you can see in real time that changes and adjustments. (for 
> example, you can see in real time 3D DRC.)
>
> That will need some work for the part of pcbnew.. but.. if you want to have a 
> real time look of the placement of the 3D components in the board, that is 
> not possible right now.. it will take ages to move a component.
>
> So one side of the thing is the management as you describe and make the pcb 
> board more aware of 3D information.. and the other that is missing .. is the 
> full communication with 3D viewer of that information (similar when you 
> select a component in pcbnew, it will show it in schematic)
>
>
>>> 2 - Visualization tool.
>
>>This is what I see as being the end game for 3D modeling in KiCad.  We
>>should be able to view and export high quality 3D board assembly models
>>to support mechanical designs using a competent 3D modeling tool for
>>designing enclosures and such.
>
> I think there are two mixed concepts here, in KiCad: 3d-viewer and 3D 
> exporter.
> 3D exporter features (Cirilo is working on its improvements!) I think it is 
> good to make it slip from 3d-viewer, so, it should be as is, two slip 
> subjects.
> We shall use 3d-viewer as a good  approximation to visualization of the 
> board, but if you really want to check and do mechanic validation you should 
> use an external CAD tool (as you explained).
>
> The 3d-viewer may not deal with / use proper CAD data information.. it will 
> deal more with triangles (in final stage to be rendered to the GPU).
> Maybe we can then have something in 3d-viewer that will export in a "3d 
> format file" for usage in softwares such as POV-ray, 3D Studio Max, Maya (but 
> not for CAD tools.. that should be in keep in a 3D exporter in Pcbnew as it 
> is now.. IMO).

This is what the VRML exporter fulfills now.

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