Nick, that makes sense. If we downloaded a new fp-lib-table.for-pretty
from github, that will break unless the user simultaneously updates their
pretties from github--which is definitely beyond the scope of this.
Adam Wolf
On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Nick Østergaard <oe.n...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I guess that only the fp-lib-table.for-github should be fetched from
> the internet. The others should be fetched locally, because they are
> installed locally. As I see it.
>
> 2015-01-22 22:33 GMT+01:00 Adam Wolf <adamw...@feelslikeburning.com>:
> > That sounds like a good idea to me, but I think it should fall back to
> > looking in that directory if Github is not available.
> >
> > I think the UI and most of the code would be the same, so I will start
> work
> > tonight...
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > On Jan 22, 2015 4:29 PM, "Carl Poirier" <carl.poirie...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Couldn't you pull the preconfigured fp-lib-tables from Github instead
> of a
> >> local directory? This way, it will be easy for the user to get the
> latest
> >> and greatest footprints!
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 4:23 PM, Adam Wolf <
> adamw...@feelslikeburning.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Great, thanks!
> >>>
> >>> On Jan 22, 2015 4:20 PM, "Wayne Stambaugh" <stambau...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> As of right now, the preloaded fp-lib-table files are installed in
> >>>> ${CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX}/share/kicad/template on Linux and Windows. On
> >>>> OSX they appear to be installed in
> >>>> ${OSX_BUNDLE_INSTALL_DIR}/${OSX_BUNDLE_SUP_DIR}/template where ever
> that
> >>>> works out to be. The fp-lib-table files themselves are part of the
> >>>> kicad-library source so hopefully the install path is the same for
> them
> >>>> on OSX as well.
> >>>>
> >>>> On 1/22/2015 4:10 PM, Adam Wolf wrote:
> >>>> > This is going to be slick, Wayne. Is there any particular place
> that
> >>>> > seems decent to put the preconfigured fp-table-libs? In my mind,
> >>>> > they're almost templates...
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Adam Wolf
> >>>> >
> >>>> > On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 4:01 PM, Wayne Stambaugh <
> stambau...@gmail.com
> >>>> > <mailto:stambau...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>> >
> >>>> > On 1/22/2015 3:56 PM, Adam Wolf wrote:
> >>>> > > Do you mean <PREFSDIR>/fp-table-lib? (i.e., on
> >>>> > > Linux ~/.config/kicad/fp-lib-table?)
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Yes.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > I really like this idea. The wizard already does a good job
> >>>> > explaining
> >>>> > > what each type of fp-lib-table entry is.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Then it should be possible to add the code to copy a
> >>>> > pre-configured
> >>>> > fp-lib-table file to the proper path. The only tricky part
> would
> >>>> > be
> >>>> > setting up any environment variables. I have a patch that sets
> >>>> > default
> >>>> > environment variables for KIGITHUB and KISYS3DMOD on start up.
> I
> >>>> > haven't designed the dialog to edit them yet. It needs tested
> on
> >>>> > OSX so
> >>>> > I will post it some time tomorrow to get some feed back. The
> >>>> > environment variables are saved in the kicad_common config file
> so
> >>>> > you
> >>>> > could simple add new config entry for something like KISYSMOD
> from
> >>>> > the
> >>>> > fp-lib-table wizard for footprint libraries stored on the system
> >>>> > once I
> >>>> > commit the code.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > Adam Wolf
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 3:33 PM, Wayne Stambaugh
> >>>> > <stambau...@gmail.com <mailto:stambau...@gmail.com>
> >>>> > > <mailto:stambau...@gmail.com <mailto:stambau...@gmail.com>>>
> >>>> > wrote:
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > Maybe you could add an "Initialize Global Table" mode to
> the
> >>>> > > fp-lib-table wizard where a predefined table file is
> copied
> >>>> > to ~/. You
> >>>> > > could test for ~/fp-lib-table and enter this mode
> >>>> > automatically or enter
> >>>> > > the "Edit Table" mode when ~/fp-lib-table is already
> >>>> > defined. This
> >>>> > > would also prevent further cluttering of the library table
> >>>> > editor.
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > On 1/22/2015 10:53 AM, Adam Wolf wrote:
> >>>> > > > The new fp-lib-table wizard is great for adding new
> >>>> > entries to the
> >>>> > > > current table, but does not appear to have a "load
> >>>> > defaults" type option.
> >>>> > > >
> >>>> > > > However, this is based on using it, not reading the
> code,
> >>>> > so it is
> >>>> > > > possible the feature is included somewhere I did not
> see.
> >>>> > > >
> >>>> > > > Adam Wolf
> >>>> > > >
> >>>> > > > On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 1:27 AM, Nick Østergaard
> >>>> > <oe.n...@gmail.com <mailto:oe.n...@gmail.com>
> >>>> > <mailto:oe.n...@gmail.com <mailto:oe.n...@gmail.com>>
> >>>> > > > <mailto:oe.n...@gmail.com <mailto:oe.n...@gmail.com>
> >>>> > <mailto:oe.n...@gmail.com <mailto:oe.n...@gmail.com>>>> wrote:
> >>>> > > >
> >>>> > > > How does this compare to the new fp lib table
> wizard?
> >>>> > > >
> >>>> > > > 2015-01-22 6:09 GMT+01:00 Adam Wolf
> >>>> > <adamw...@feelslikeburning.com <mailto:
> adamw...@feelslikeburning.com>
> >>>> > <mailto:adamw...@feelslikeburning.com
> >>>> > <mailto:adamw...@feelslikeburning.com>>
> >>>> > > > <mailto:adamw...@feelslikeburning.com
> >>>> > <mailto:adamw...@feelslikeburning.com>
> >>>> > > <mailto:adamw...@feelslikeburning.com
> >>>> > <mailto:adamw...@feelslikeburning.com>>>>:
> >>>> > > > > Hi folks!
> >>>> > > > >
> >>>> > > > > I have a question about adding another feature to
> >>>> > the
> >>>> > > > fp-lib-tables manager,
> >>>> > > > > which is already pretty crowded and I want to get
> >>>> > buy-in
> >>>> > > before even
> >>>> > > > > attempting a patch.
> >>>> > > > >
> >>>> > > > > Background:
> >>>> > > > >
> >>>> > > > > Running into another issue with the KiCad Mac
> >>>> > experience.
> >>>> > > Just to
> >>>> > > > recap, I'm
> >>>> > > > > trying for 2 DMGs.
> >>>> > > > >
> >>>> > > > > One is called "KiCad Extras" and currently
> includes
> >>>> > the modules
> >>>> > > > from github,
> >>>> > > > > and the fp-table-lib.for-pretty renamed just
> >>>> > fp-table-lib. The
> >>>> > > > idea is that
> >>>> > > > > users can download the extras DMG, and no longer
> >>>> > need
> >>>> > to be
> >>>> > > online for
> >>>> > > > > Kicad.
> >>>> > > > >
> >>>> > > > > The modules directory is fine, we provide a "drop
> >>>> > target"
> >>>> > > (just a
> >>>> > > > symlink)
> >>>> > > > > of /Library/Application Support/kicad/.
> >>>> > > > >
> >>>> > > > > However, the fp-table-lib is tricky. The per-user
> >>>> > "global"
> >>>> > > (across
> >>>> > > > > projects" fp-table-lib is located in
> >>>> > > ~/Library/Preferences/kicad/
> >>>> > > > We cannot
> >>>> > > > > make a "drop target" in a DMG that points to ~/.
> >>>> > > > >
> >>>> > > > > Making a "package" works around this, but users
> >>>> > don't like
> >>>> > > > packages unless
> >>>> > > > > they're part of App Store (because they usually
> >>>> > don't
> >>>> > > realize they're
> >>>> > > > > packages :)). I don't want to do that.
> >>>> > > > >
> >>>> > > > > Question: Would a way to "load default
> >>>> > fp-lib-tables"
> >>>> > be useful
> >>>> > > > to other
> >>>> > > > > people in the library table manager? This would
> >>>> > take
> >>>> > a look
> >>>> > > at what
> >>>> > > > > fp-lib-tables.* are available in a location, and
> >>>> > give
> >>>> > users the
> >>>> > > > ability to
> >>>> > > > > replace their fp-lib-tables with known
> >>>> > defaults--i.e.
> >>>> > I want to
> >>>> > > > use github,
> >>>> > > > > I want to use eagle, I want to use on-disk
> pretties
> >>>> > > downloaded from
> >>>> > > > > github...
> >>>> > > > >
> >>>> > > > > The more I think about this, I think that it might
> >>>> > not
> >>>> > only help
> >>>> > > > the Mac
> >>>> > > > > install experience, but actually help the new user
> >>>> > > experience on all
> >>>> > > > > platforms.
> >>>> > > > >
> >>>> > > > > Thoughts? (and greetings from Montreal, where I
> am
> >>>> > on
> >>>> > business
> >>>> > > > and also
> >>>> > > > > working on Kicad Mac nightlies while stuffed with
> >>>> > curry
> >>>> > > poutine...)
> >>>> > > > >
> >>>> > > > > Adam Wolf
> >>>> > > > > Cofounder and Engineer
> >>>> > > > > W&L
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