On 11/18/2013 12:11 PM, Lorenzo Marcantonio wrote: > On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 11:25:16AM -0600, Dick Hollenbeck wrote: >> I find KiCad barely useable. I am in no way satisfied with KiCad. In my >> view it is >> however making progress, although more like 3 steps forward and 1 step back. > > I do not agree with that. It's *far* from perfect, but beats every low > cost EDA package I've ever tried. YMMV, depending on the kind of board > you're doing (good luck with an heavily impedance controlled layout or > modern things like via-on-pad). I recently did an UHF design (RFID > stuff), not exactly the easiest thing but with care (and *a lot* of > review) everything worked out. > > At the present time I'd say it's like autocad without any domain > specific addon, i.e. almost anything can be done but not a lot easily > and quickly. > > ATM the thing still I mostly miss are inter-class design rules (i.e. > having 220VAC and 5VDC on the same board). Need a lot of time to verify > and recheck. Failures in safety certification tend to be expensive:( > > Also a better 'drag trace' would be even more useful for me than the P&S > router. Maybe it's a workflow issue of mine, I don't know... > > The 1 step back you are mentioning is probably due to the constant > changing evolution (for example I really don't like the new opengl view > but that's probably because it's still little more than a proof of > concept).
The combination of CERN, Tom, Orson and Javier, put well over a hundred grand into that specific work. Torsten contributed to GAL underpinnings, with contributions from me also. We are lucky to have Tom and Orson in a position to contribute, and I welcome their further contributions and hope that their de-motivation is not a consequence of these remarks. Without P&S routing, there's no chance in hell I would even be using KiCad, going back to the freerouter round-tripping bridge years ago. Dick > Also probably something broke in the change module due to the > new footprint library table. More testing (a lot more) is needed. Still > I see asserts popping up sometimes when cancelling operations in pcbnew, > for example. > _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Post to : [email protected] Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp

