On 2025-08-21, Rob Landley <r...@landley.net> wrote: > P.S. It's a pity lkml.iu.edu and spinics.net are both down right now, but > after vger.kernel.org deleted all reference to them I can't say I'm > surprised. Neither lkml.org nor lore.kernel.org have an obvious threaded > interface allowing you to find stuff without a keyword search, and
I'm not sure what issue you're gesturing to exactly, but if you have the Message-ID you can link to it directly with <https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/$MESSAGE_ID>. For instance, this email will be available at <https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/2025-08-22-witty-worthy-wink-sitcom-t5l...@cyphar.com>. To be honest, I much prefer that to lkml.org's completely opaque mappings based on arrival order and date (and in my experience it seems to miss messages). The same goes for lkml.iu.edu, spinics and gmane. One of the biggest losses when gmane disappeared was that all of the URLs that referenced it were rendered unusable because the mapping from their numbering to Message-IDs was not maintained. If lkml.org goes down 10 years from now, every reference to it will also be unusable, but lore.kernel.org addresses will still be usable even if it goes down (you can even search your local archives for the mails). (It would be nice if more people spent a bit of time configuring their Message-ID generation to be more friendly for this usecase -- mutt changed their default Message-ID generation to be completely random characters a few years ago, which made Message-IDs less recognisable until folks adjusted their configs. Gmail is even worse, obviously.) Also, lore.kernel.org has threading on the main page and on individual thread pages? Maybe I don't understand what you're referring to? > lore.kernel.org somehow manages not to list "linux-kernel" in its top level > list of "inboxes" at all. The wagons are circled pretty tightly... No it's definitely there, it's just labeled as "lkml" (they're sorted by latest message timestamp so LKML will usually be near the top). -- Aleksa Sarai Senior Software Engineer (Containers) SUSE Linux GmbH https://www.cyphar.com/
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