This thing can happen due to multiple factors. I was running a 1800X. Freezes ocurred in 24-48h of uptime. Disabling Global C-State or enabling typical power idle in UEFI stopped those freezes. The latter option disables PC6 on top of using 0.85V idle voltage. To disable PC6 you need a cold boot, otherwise only the voltage change is applied and PC6 remains enabled, crashing the system as usual.
I upgraded to a 2700X (UEFI cleared) and apparently the issue disappeared. But nope, it's just less frequent. Much less. Currently I have an uptime of 23d. I also had another 2700X running for 17d before testing again a 1800X which crashed within 24h, afterwards I inserted the current 2700X which crashed within 48h. The following boot is the one with an uptime of 23d. All in all, this might be related to either a PSU thing or to a non- existent but required kernel workaround for a bug in the processor, as detailed in the AMD Revision Guide [1]. The 1800X would crash more because it has more bugs and workarounds needed, while the 2700X has fewer, specially related to the PCIe controller. Ironically, the 2700X consumes less power at idle than the 1800X because it requires lower voltages: 12nm+ vs 14nm, and the voltages specified at every power level are also lower. I don't see much logic in saying that the PSU is the culprit of system instability. All the people trying "idle=nomwait", "idle=halt" or "processor.max_cstate=5" should be warned those options are useless. There are only 2 Cstates available in Ryzen systems, so if you want to limit Cstate you have to set it to 1 at most -> "processor.max_cstate=1". And the use of the MWAIT instruction is disabled by the UEFI if you insert a Ryzen 1800X processor. The 2700X and the rest of 2nd gen Ryzen are not affected by any MWAIT bug. Idle option is thus useless too. It's better to try with "pcie_aspm=off" or "pcie_aspm=force" pcie_aspm.policy=performance" and or "nvme_core.default_ps_max_latency_us=0". Maybe the PCIe root or anything related does not wakeup and the processor stalls waiting for an interrupt to be served. [1] https://www.amd.com/system/files/TechDocs/55449_Fam_17h_M_00h-0Fh_Rev_Guide.pdf -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1690085 Title: Ryzen 1800X freeze - rcu_sched detected stalls on CPUs/tasks Status in Linux: Expired Status in linux package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: Hi, We aregetting various kernel crash on a pretty new config. We're using Ryzen 1800X CPU with X370 Gaming Pro Carbon MB (7A32V1) using latest BIOS available (1.52) We are running Ubuntu 17.04 (amd64), we've tried different kernel version, native one and releases from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ too. Tested kernel version: native 17.04 kernel 4.10.15 Issues are the same, we're getting random freeze on the machine. Here is kern.log entry when happening : May 10 22:41:56 dev2 kernel: [24366.186246] INFO: rcu_sched detected stalls on CPUs/tasks: May 10 22:41:56 dev2 kernel: [24366.187618] 0-...: (1 GPs behind) idle=49b/1/0 softirq=28561/28563 fqs=913449 May 10 22:41:56 dev2 kernel: [24366.188977] (detected by 12, t=1860207 jiffies, g=10001, c=10000, q=4656) May 10 22:41:56 dev2 kernel: [24366.190344] Task dump for CPU 0: May 10 22:41:56 dev2 kernel: [24366.190345] swapper/0 R running task 0 0 0 0x00000008 May 10 22:41:56 dev2 kernel: [24366.190348] Call Trace: May 10 22:41:56 dev2 kernel: [24366.190354] ? native_safe_halt+0x6/0x10 May 10 22:41:56 dev2 kernel: [24366.190355] ? default_idle+0x20/0xd0 May 10 22:41:56 dev2 kernel: [24366.190358] ? arch_cpu_idle+0xf/0x20 May 10 22:41:56 dev2 kernel: [24366.190360] ? default_idle_call+0x23/0x30 May 10 22:41:56 dev2 kernel: [24366.190362] ? do_idle+0x16f/0x200 May 10 22:41:56 dev2 kernel: [24366.190364] ? cpu_startup_entry+0x71/0x80 May 10 22:41:56 dev2 kernel: [24366.190366] ? rest_init+0x77/0x80 May 10 22:41:56 dev2 kernel: [24366.190368] ? start_kernel+0x464/0x485 May 10 22:41:56 dev2 kernel: [24366.190369] ? early_idt_handler_array+0x120/0x120 May 10 22:41:56 dev2 kernel: [24366.190371] ? x86_64_start_reservations+0x24/0x26 May 10 22:41:56 dev2 kernel: [24366.190372] ? x86_64_start_kernel+0x14d/0x170 May 10 22:41:56 dev2 kernel: [24366.190373] ? start_cpu+0x14/0x14 May 10 22:44:56 dev2 kernel: [24546.188093] INFO: rcu_sched detected stalls on CPUs/tasks: May 10 22:44:56 dev2 kernel: [24546.189461] 0-...: (1 GPs behind) idle=49b/1/0 softirq=28561/28563 fqs=935027 May 10 22:44:56 dev2 kernel: [24546.190823] (detected by 14, t=1905212 jiffies, g=10001, c=10000, q=4740) May 10 22:44:56 dev2 kernel: [24546.192191] Task dump for CPU 0: May 10 22:44:56 dev2 kernel: [24546.192192] swapper/0 R running task 0 0 0 0x00000008 May 10 22:44:56 dev2 kernel: [24546.192195] Call Trace: May 10 22:44:56 dev2 kernel: [24546.192199] ? native_safe_halt+0x6/0x10 May 10 22:44:56 dev2 kernel: [24546.192201] ? default_idle+0x20/0xd0 May 10 22:44:56 dev2 kernel: [24546.192203] ? arch_cpu_idle+0xf/0x20 May 10 22:44:56 dev2 kernel: [24546.192204] ? default_idle_call+0x23/0x30 May 10 22:44:56 dev2 kernel: [24546.192206] ? do_idle+0x16f/0x200 May 10 22:44:56 dev2 kernel: [24546.192208] ? cpu_startup_entry+0x71/0x80 May 10 22:44:56 dev2 kernel: [24546.192210] ? rest_init+0x77/0x80 May 10 22:44:56 dev2 kernel: [24546.192211] ? start_kernel+0x464/0x485 May 10 22:44:56 dev2 kernel: [24546.192213] ? early_idt_handler_array+0x120/0x120 May 10 22:44:56 dev2 kernel: [24546.192214] ? x86_64_start_reservations+0x24/0x26 May 10 22:44:56 dev2 kernel: [24546.192215] ? x86_64_start_kernel+0x14d/0x170 May 10 22:44:56 dev2 kernel: [24546.192217] ? start_cpu+0x14/0x14 Depending on the kernel version, we've got NMI watchdog errors related to CPU stuck (mentioning the CPU core id, which is random). Crash is happening randomly, but in general after some hours (3-4h). Now, we've installed kernel 4.11.0-041100-generic #201705041534 this morning and waiting for crash... For now, the machine is not "used", at least, it's not CPU stressed... Thanks --- ApportVersion: 2.20.4-0ubuntu4 Architecture: amd64 DistroRelease: Ubuntu 17.04 InstallationDate: Installed on 2017-05-09 (1 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu-Server 17.04 "Zesty Zapus" - Release amd64 (20170412) Package: linux (not installed) ProcEnviron: TERM=xterm-256color PATH=(custom, no user) XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=<set> LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash Tags: zesty Uname: Linux 4.11.0-041100-generic x86_64 UnreportableReason: The running kernel is not an Ubuntu kernel UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) UserGroups: _MarkForUpload: True To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/linux/+bug/1690085/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages Post to : kernel-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
