(In reply to Vladyslav Yamkovyi from comment #441) > (In reply to Owen Swerkstrom from comment #439) > > This comes up as a Linux problem, but it sure smells like a hardware defect > > to me. > Any system that does not provides a software workaround must be affected > according to published errata, not even a question. I've published one of > their revision guides in my previous comments. They have no plans on fixing > this and suggest using software workarounds. We're left on our own.
What is the "this" that AMD have no plans to fix ? I had a look at <https://www.amd.com/system/files/TechDocs /55449_Fam_17h_M_00h-0Fh_Rev_Guide.pdf> which you referenced earlier. I found 3 MWAIT issues: 1057 MWAIT or MWAITX Instructions May Fail to Correctly Exit From the Monitor Event Pending State 1059 In Real Mode or Virtual-8086 Mode MWAIT or MWAITX Instructions May Fail to Correctly Exit From the Monitor Event Pending State 1109 MWAIT Instruction May Hang a Thread but I could not find anything else that might be related to the "freeze when idle" problem. FWIW, here's the full text for the Erratum 1109: 1109 MWAIT Instruction May Hang a Thread Description: Under a highly specific and detailed set of internal timing conditions, the MWAIT instruction may cause a thread to hang in SMT (Simultaneous Multithreading) Mode. Potential Effect on System: The system may hang or reset. Suggested Workaround: System software may contain the workaround for this erratum. Fix Planned: No fix planned so there ! I guess "idle=nomwait" is "the workaround" ? "Typical Current Idle" appears to work for some (including me) but not for everyone. If one or more of these MWAIT errata is the root cause of the "freeze when idle" problem, I wonder why AMD introduced "Typical Current Idle" and how that relates to these MWAIT issues ?? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1690085 Title: Ryzen 1800X freeze - rcu_sched detected stalls on CPUs/tasks Status in Linux: Confirmed Status in linux package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: Hi, We aregetting various kernel crash on a pretty new config. We're using Ryzen 1800X CPU with X370 Gaming Pro Carbon MB (7A32V1) using latest BIOS available (1.52) We are running Ubuntu 17.04 (amd64), we've tried different kernel version, native one and releases from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ too. Tested kernel version: native 17.04 kernel 4.10.15 Issues are the same, we're getting random freeze on the machine. Here is kern.log entry when happening : May 10 22:41:56 dev2 kernel: [24366.186246] INFO: rcu_sched detected stalls on CPUs/tasks: May 10 22:41:56 dev2 kernel: [24366.187618] 0-...: (1 GPs behind) idle=49b/1/0 softirq=28561/28563 fqs=913449 May 10 22:41:56 dev2 kernel: [24366.188977] (detected by 12, t=1860207 jiffies, g=10001, c=10000, q=4656) May 10 22:41:56 dev2 kernel: [24366.190344] Task dump for CPU 0: May 10 22:41:56 dev2 kernel: [24366.190345] swapper/0 R running task 0 0 0 0x00000008 May 10 22:41:56 dev2 kernel: [24366.190348] Call Trace: May 10 22:41:56 dev2 kernel: [24366.190354] ? native_safe_halt+0x6/0x10 May 10 22:41:56 dev2 kernel: [24366.190355] ? default_idle+0x20/0xd0 May 10 22:41:56 dev2 kernel: [24366.190358] ? arch_cpu_idle+0xf/0x20 May 10 22:41:56 dev2 kernel: [24366.190360] ? default_idle_call+0x23/0x30 May 10 22:41:56 dev2 kernel: [24366.190362] ? do_idle+0x16f/0x200 May 10 22:41:56 dev2 kernel: [24366.190364] ? cpu_startup_entry+0x71/0x80 May 10 22:41:56 dev2 kernel: [24366.190366] ? rest_init+0x77/0x80 May 10 22:41:56 dev2 kernel: [24366.190368] ? start_kernel+0x464/0x485 May 10 22:41:56 dev2 kernel: [24366.190369] ? early_idt_handler_array+0x120/0x120 May 10 22:41:56 dev2 kernel: [24366.190371] ? x86_64_start_reservations+0x24/0x26 May 10 22:41:56 dev2 kernel: [24366.190372] ? x86_64_start_kernel+0x14d/0x170 May 10 22:41:56 dev2 kernel: [24366.190373] ? start_cpu+0x14/0x14 May 10 22:44:56 dev2 kernel: [24546.188093] INFO: rcu_sched detected stalls on CPUs/tasks: May 10 22:44:56 dev2 kernel: [24546.189461] 0-...: (1 GPs behind) idle=49b/1/0 softirq=28561/28563 fqs=935027 May 10 22:44:56 dev2 kernel: [24546.190823] (detected by 14, t=1905212 jiffies, g=10001, c=10000, q=4740) May 10 22:44:56 dev2 kernel: [24546.192191] Task dump for CPU 0: May 10 22:44:56 dev2 kernel: [24546.192192] swapper/0 R running task 0 0 0 0x00000008 May 10 22:44:56 dev2 kernel: [24546.192195] Call Trace: May 10 22:44:56 dev2 kernel: [24546.192199] ? native_safe_halt+0x6/0x10 May 10 22:44:56 dev2 kernel: [24546.192201] ? default_idle+0x20/0xd0 May 10 22:44:56 dev2 kernel: [24546.192203] ? arch_cpu_idle+0xf/0x20 May 10 22:44:56 dev2 kernel: [24546.192204] ? default_idle_call+0x23/0x30 May 10 22:44:56 dev2 kernel: [24546.192206] ? do_idle+0x16f/0x200 May 10 22:44:56 dev2 kernel: [24546.192208] ? cpu_startup_entry+0x71/0x80 May 10 22:44:56 dev2 kernel: [24546.192210] ? rest_init+0x77/0x80 May 10 22:44:56 dev2 kernel: [24546.192211] ? start_kernel+0x464/0x485 May 10 22:44:56 dev2 kernel: [24546.192213] ? early_idt_handler_array+0x120/0x120 May 10 22:44:56 dev2 kernel: [24546.192214] ? x86_64_start_reservations+0x24/0x26 May 10 22:44:56 dev2 kernel: [24546.192215] ? x86_64_start_kernel+0x14d/0x170 May 10 22:44:56 dev2 kernel: [24546.192217] ? start_cpu+0x14/0x14 Depending on the kernel version, we've got NMI watchdog errors related to CPU stuck (mentioning the CPU core id, which is random). Crash is happening randomly, but in general after some hours (3-4h). Now, we've installed kernel 4.11.0-041100-generic #201705041534 this morning and waiting for crash... For now, the machine is not "used", at least, it's not CPU stressed... Thanks --- ApportVersion: 2.20.4-0ubuntu4 Architecture: amd64 DistroRelease: Ubuntu 17.04 InstallationDate: Installed on 2017-05-09 (1 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu-Server 17.04 "Zesty Zapus" - Release amd64 (20170412) Package: linux (not installed) ProcEnviron: TERM=xterm-256color PATH=(custom, no user) XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=<set> LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash Tags: zesty Uname: Linux 4.11.0-041100-generic x86_64 UnreportableReason: The running kernel is not an Ubuntu kernel UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) UserGroups: _MarkForUpload: True To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/linux/+bug/1690085/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages Post to : kernel-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
