Who knows ? When I say that "Typical Current Idle" appears to eliminate the "freeze when idle" problem, I mean that (a) that is my experience (to date), and (b) I have seen others reporting similar experience.
I'm not aware of any public, definitive information from AMD, any motherboard vendor or the relevant kernel folk -- certainly nothing which says what the "Typical Current Idle" BIOS option actually does, and whether or how it solves the problem, in part or completely. Sadly, this long thread has almost nothing to do with identifying any actual Kernel bug or bugs. It's more a sort of support group. [Hello, I'm Chris and I'm an AMD Ryzen user... since I found the "Typical Current Idle" BIOS option, I haven't had a "freeze while idle" for two weeks -- praise be.] If you are looking for useful information, look away now: angry, bewildered person about to howl at the moon... -------------- ...do I find the situation "Incredible" ? hmmm... [Final warning: reduced signal/noise ration ahead.] I bought my Ryzen machine the moment I could order it. When I came to build it, I found there was some confusion about the "standard" fitting for the CPU cooler -- the plate glued to the motherboard and the cooler fitting were incompatible. I found myself in a three-way stand-off between AMD, the motherboard vendor and the cooler vendor. If there was a specification for the standard AM4 socket fitting for the cooler, it was Top Secret. In the end I voided all warranties, ripped the plate from the motherboard and replaced it by the one supplied with the cooler. When I set up my new machine, I found the standard configuration for the memory was not as fast as I expected, noting <https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/amd-ryzen-7-1800x>. But, I stumbled across this <https://community.amd.com/community/gaming/blog/2017/03/14/tips-for- building-a-better-amd-ryzen-system> where I discovered that the 2667 MT/s I was expecting was for 2 DIMMs; with my 4 DIMMs, 2133 MT/s is what I should have expected. Silly Me ! I have seen BIOSes since then which are supposed to improve memory support... but I think that's more options for overclocking... who knows ? Call me old fashioned, but I am disappointed (but no longer surprised) that I cannot find an AMD data sheet that specifies memory support (or much of anything else, for that matter). Can I find any documentation for AGESA ? No. It's various versions (and changes in version numbering) ? No. Does my motherboard vendor provide release notes for each BIOS version ? No. How did I discover which BIOS version had the "Typical Current Idle" option ? By experiment. If the platform_x86...@kernel-bugs.osdl.org fairy has died because I stopped clapping, then I'm sorry. ... so, Incredible ? Nah. Infuriating ? You bet. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1690085 Title: Ryzen 1800X freeze - rcu_sched detected stalls on CPUs/tasks Status in Linux: Confirmed Status in linux package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: Hi, We aregetting various kernel crash on a pretty new config. We're using Ryzen 1800X CPU with X370 Gaming Pro Carbon MB (7A32V1) using latest BIOS available (1.52) We are running Ubuntu 17.04 (amd64), we've tried different kernel version, native one and releases from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ too. Tested kernel version: native 17.04 kernel 4.10.15 Issues are the same, we're getting random freeze on the machine. Here is kern.log entry when happening : May 10 22:41:56 dev2 kernel: [24366.186246] INFO: rcu_sched detected stalls on CPUs/tasks: May 10 22:41:56 dev2 kernel: [24366.187618] 0-...: (1 GPs behind) idle=49b/1/0 softirq=28561/28563 fqs=913449 May 10 22:41:56 dev2 kernel: [24366.188977] (detected by 12, t=1860207 jiffies, g=10001, c=10000, q=4656) May 10 22:41:56 dev2 kernel: [24366.190344] Task dump for CPU 0: May 10 22:41:56 dev2 kernel: [24366.190345] swapper/0 R running task 0 0 0 0x00000008 May 10 22:41:56 dev2 kernel: [24366.190348] Call Trace: May 10 22:41:56 dev2 kernel: [24366.190354] ? native_safe_halt+0x6/0x10 May 10 22:41:56 dev2 kernel: [24366.190355] ? default_idle+0x20/0xd0 May 10 22:41:56 dev2 kernel: [24366.190358] ? arch_cpu_idle+0xf/0x20 May 10 22:41:56 dev2 kernel: [24366.190360] ? default_idle_call+0x23/0x30 May 10 22:41:56 dev2 kernel: [24366.190362] ? do_idle+0x16f/0x200 May 10 22:41:56 dev2 kernel: [24366.190364] ? cpu_startup_entry+0x71/0x80 May 10 22:41:56 dev2 kernel: [24366.190366] ? rest_init+0x77/0x80 May 10 22:41:56 dev2 kernel: [24366.190368] ? start_kernel+0x464/0x485 May 10 22:41:56 dev2 kernel: [24366.190369] ? early_idt_handler_array+0x120/0x120 May 10 22:41:56 dev2 kernel: [24366.190371] ? x86_64_start_reservations+0x24/0x26 May 10 22:41:56 dev2 kernel: [24366.190372] ? x86_64_start_kernel+0x14d/0x170 May 10 22:41:56 dev2 kernel: [24366.190373] ? start_cpu+0x14/0x14 May 10 22:44:56 dev2 kernel: [24546.188093] INFO: rcu_sched detected stalls on CPUs/tasks: May 10 22:44:56 dev2 kernel: [24546.189461] 0-...: (1 GPs behind) idle=49b/1/0 softirq=28561/28563 fqs=935027 May 10 22:44:56 dev2 kernel: [24546.190823] (detected by 14, t=1905212 jiffies, g=10001, c=10000, q=4740) May 10 22:44:56 dev2 kernel: [24546.192191] Task dump for CPU 0: May 10 22:44:56 dev2 kernel: [24546.192192] swapper/0 R running task 0 0 0 0x00000008 May 10 22:44:56 dev2 kernel: [24546.192195] Call Trace: May 10 22:44:56 dev2 kernel: [24546.192199] ? native_safe_halt+0x6/0x10 May 10 22:44:56 dev2 kernel: [24546.192201] ? default_idle+0x20/0xd0 May 10 22:44:56 dev2 kernel: [24546.192203] ? arch_cpu_idle+0xf/0x20 May 10 22:44:56 dev2 kernel: [24546.192204] ? default_idle_call+0x23/0x30 May 10 22:44:56 dev2 kernel: [24546.192206] ? do_idle+0x16f/0x200 May 10 22:44:56 dev2 kernel: [24546.192208] ? cpu_startup_entry+0x71/0x80 May 10 22:44:56 dev2 kernel: [24546.192210] ? rest_init+0x77/0x80 May 10 22:44:56 dev2 kernel: [24546.192211] ? start_kernel+0x464/0x485 May 10 22:44:56 dev2 kernel: [24546.192213] ? early_idt_handler_array+0x120/0x120 May 10 22:44:56 dev2 kernel: [24546.192214] ? x86_64_start_reservations+0x24/0x26 May 10 22:44:56 dev2 kernel: [24546.192215] ? x86_64_start_kernel+0x14d/0x170 May 10 22:44:56 dev2 kernel: [24546.192217] ? start_cpu+0x14/0x14 Depending on the kernel version, we've got NMI watchdog errors related to CPU stuck (mentioning the CPU core id, which is random). Crash is happening randomly, but in general after some hours (3-4h). Now, we've installed kernel 4.11.0-041100-generic #201705041534 this morning and waiting for crash... For now, the machine is not "used", at least, it's not CPU stressed... Thanks --- ApportVersion: 2.20.4-0ubuntu4 Architecture: amd64 DistroRelease: Ubuntu 17.04 InstallationDate: Installed on 2017-05-09 (1 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu-Server 17.04 "Zesty Zapus" - Release amd64 (20170412) Package: linux (not installed) ProcEnviron: TERM=xterm-256color PATH=(custom, no user) XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=<set> LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash Tags: zesty Uname: Linux 4.11.0-041100-generic x86_64 UnreportableReason: The running kernel is not an Ubuntu kernel UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) UserGroups: _MarkForUpload: True To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/linux/+bug/1690085/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages Post to : kernel-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
