I tested the latest Kdenlive from git and I found the new generators and the new library with the nesting function. First of all I have to admit that you are doing a great job because kdenlive is growing very fast, it's becoming better and more stable.
I updated already my post about the new features.
I also tested the new powerful nesting function (even if I still believe that for professional purpose is essential to have the option to use more sequences in the same project) by opening a project long 7 minutes and 17 seconds formed by 8 tracks (5 video and 3 audio) with these results:

- When I tried to expand it in the new project timeline a message shown up telling me that there are not enough tracks but it didn't specify which kind of tracks, video or audio.

- For the first time I noticed that you can't add more than one track at time, so I had to repeat the operation more times.

- Kdenlive had problems to expand the virtual clip on the timeline in the correct way. I don't know if this latest issue is due to the fact that the original project was created by Kdenlive ver. 0.9.10. Anyway I imported it and saved it in the new format before to start with the nesting procedure. The main problem is that in the original project I put some audio clips also on the lower video track. When Kdenlive expanded the the virtual clip I didn't found some audio clips and I found some video clips duplicated.

I hope this information can be useful.
Ciao.

Massimo.
Il 07/03/2016 18:33, Jean-Baptiste Mardelle ha scritto:
On Monday, March 7, 2016 11:14:26 AM CET, Sam Muirhead wrote:
Hi Massimo, this is a phenomenal post - this kind of deep anaylsis is extremely valuable and I think we're all very grateful for the work you put into it.

I completely agree with your (constructive) criticism and although there's clearly still a way for this program to go, though it is a good sign that most of the major hurdles to professional adoption can now fit within a one clear post! Regarding the different trim modes, there is some Ripple functionality, at least: 'Ripple Delete' deletes the selected zone between In and Out points on all unlocked tracks, and slides everything back to fill the gap: https://userbase.kde.org/Kdenlive/Manual/Timeline/Editing#Cutting_Footage_from_multiple_aligned_tracks_-_Ripple_Delete

The only important workflow issue which I think wasn't covered (though you somewhat touched upon it in the 'nesting' section) is copying cut clips and edited sections between different projects.

In current git, I introduced a new "Library" widget that is designed for that - storing and passing sequences between projects. The UI and workflow could be improved, and it is not much tested but the most important features should be here.

To use it:

1 - Show the Library widget.
2 - Select whatever you want in timeline (clips, transitions)
3 - Copy timeline selection to Library (Using the Bookmark icon in Library)

This will put the sequence in the Library.

Next, open another project where you want to use that sequence, and simply drag and drop the sequence into this project's Bin.

You now have a "nested" clip that can be inserted in timeline. Now the best part is that you can "expand" this nested clip in timeline to edit its clips/effects/transitions. To do this, select the sequence in timeline, and go to the menu Timeline > Current Clip > Expand Current Clip.

This will restore the multi-track clips.

regards
jb

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