kdenlive-devel at lists.sourceforge.net schrieb am 05.11.02 13:37:16: > > A totally agree, I also don't like the gimp way with many windows floating > around and constantly hiding each other. > I think the way Jason is going is very nice. kdenlive is basically a single > big window, where all components are arranging themselves automagically. I > guess Qt/KDE even allows you to put Handles to widgets, so that you can e.g. > drag the video widget to the left or right and it will be reswalloed in the > right place, or even be a free window if you like. I mean like you can do > with the menubar in every KDE app. > Other dialogs which are only of temporary interest will probably just pop up > for a while, like e.g. the filemanager. > Just to make sure I understand, do you have a problem with the way it is > working now?
I'm not sure, because I cannot compile kdenlive at the moment :-( Some errors occured during make process like 'kmmrulerbar...blabla.. cannot find ... blabla ... (Sorry, I can't give exact information, because actually I'm at work.) Maybe I need (resp. my machine ;-) need an additional package? BTW: I can't find the requirements needed to compile kdenlive at the homepage. Maybe I should search the cvs repository to find more info on that? ;-) > > Also this could be similar to 'MoviePack and Extreme' , because they had an > > additional window called 'Timegraph' which is showing the applied effect of > > the selected clip, ALL effect-parameters, user can adapt the 'Keyframes' > > very exactly and user can toggle between 'Timeline' and 'Timegraph' mode by > > shortcut very quick and easy . > > Sounds good. I wish I had a few more of those nifty M$ Windoze apps. I just > have MGI VideoWave (which is the crap that came with my Sony camcorder, urgh) > and MovieDVPerfect (which came with my FireWire PCI-card). That is actually > not too bad. I just can't afford Premiere ;-( You can search the web for 'MovieXone 4.0'. This is the free limited version of 'MoviePack'. The skin is VERY deterring, but you can check out the functionallity. > > The MoviePack procedure is for example: > > > > 1. Select a clip. > > > > 2. Now the applied affects are shown in the effect-window. > > > > 3. Select an effect in the effect-window, by activating the appropriate > > button (on top of this window all effects are symbolized as buttons and the > > values/parameters are listed below). > > > > 4. And finally user can adapt the keyframes in Timegraph mode (KeyLine? ;-) > > (On top you see the clip and below all effect parameter.) > > Sounds similar to MovieDVPerfect. Probably this is the canonical way to do > things. Yes, I think this is the state of affairs. > > Apropos shortcuts - I suggested you to have a look at the Mustux project > > ... http://www.nongnu.org/mustux/ > > > > I don't know if it is profitable for your project, but you will obtain a > > shortcut-engine and later on a lot of audio filters for free! And shortcuts > > are very important especially for professional users ... IMHO. > > > > You can check out the Mustux functionallities by trying Protux : > > http://www.nongnu.org/protux/ > > Hmm.. I don't quite get it > > | NOTE: The notation is ^C[WR]:LR (point to a clip, hold W and R, and > | move the mouse Left and Right) > > Does that mean it is like mouse gestures in opera/mozilla with additional > keys? Hmm ... haven't used that. But for Protux you have to point to anything, hold one or two keys [WR] and the other hand move the mouse to left, right, up or down to change values or positions ... in the example above a Clip. But the best way is to install Mustux/Protux on your machine :-) There is also a simple tutorial at the Protux page describing more details. greetings Reinhard ________________________________________________________________ Keine verlorenen Lotto-Quittungen, keine vergessenen Gewinne mehr! Beim WEB.DE Lottoservice: http://tippen2.web.de/?x=13
