And you think that justifies 20 to 50 open browser tabs dream on not a hope. You can say absolutely nothing at all that will EVER change that .
Pete On Mon, 3 Sep 2018, 07:12 Draciron Smith, <draci...@gmail.com> wrote: > One thing I find amusing is when other people make statements without > asking and thus looking rather foolish. I have rather diverse interests, > memberships and activities. If I had to take a Microsoft single task open > and close every app as I used them I'd lose a couple hours a day of > productivity. The tabs I have open allow me to sit down and immediately go > to work on a given task as necessary. They are important references, email, > what I am working on at a given moment and I leave it open rather than > bookmark something I only need once or trying to find those pages in my > history and get back to the section I was reading or using for reference. I > might have a couple related scientific articles open for example that stay > open for several days as I follow up on my research on the topic. Once I've > consumed the knowledge to the point necessary I close down the related tabs > saving those to PDF as necessary that I will want later. > > Other tabs are things like netflix, where I might be in the middle of > viewing something or just have it open so if I want to watch a movie 3 > seconds later I'm watching a movie. I keep multiple machines running > multiple tabs and can accomplish more in an hour that most people > accomplish in a day because I don't spend most of my time repeating useless > tasks such as getting back to where I was at one point or another. I have a > very large amount of expert memory that allows me to keep track of states > in various endeavors very similar to a chess player keeping track of the > state of a board while playing multiple chess boards. Speaking of which one > app I might be keeping open is a chess game I'm playing while I wait for my > opponent to move. I can click on the board, make my move, fire it off and > get back to whatever else I'm doing in seconds. I can grab my guitar and > go strait to recording a project I am working on, editing a song I just > recorded or if I'm learning a cover to jam with somebody I can in seconds > be right back to the tabs, a video of how to play the song and the song's > video which I can switch back and forth as needed. Then do something else > and come back a couple days later to refresh my memory until I've got the > song down pat. Then I may jump over to an article or book or script I'm > writing, throw it in a grammar checking website I leave open all the time, > drop it back in my editor, jump over to the next thing I'm writing or go > look at my Fantasy baseball teams or read email or hit social media. I > might write a quick Python script and have 3 or 4 tabs open with references > related to what I'm doing and close those tabs as I no longer need them > rather than trying to remember what page out of the 20 I looked at had the > best example or information. Then opening that page up in a tab, then > scrolling down to the section I was interested in assuming I even > remembered where it was. That's just some of the MANY examples of the > things I do. > > Linux allows me to do that. Not just do that, but to do it on systems that > could barely run windoze at all much less overload the system the way I do. > My problem is Akondi which cripples Linux and turns it into a Windoze like > single tasker. If I wanted that I'd just leave windoze on the machine and > do things SLOOOWWWWWLLLY one thing at a time spending half my day opening > things back up, waiting for the states to get refreshed, then scrolling or > otherwise. I'm way too ADD, I'll be doing something else having gotten > bored by the time I get done opening the app, finding the page, waiting for > it to load, then scrolling down. My inspiration might be gone, I may have > an urgent IM come in, a lot of reasons why I don't want to spend a minute > doing something that should take 3 seconds. > > I get reid of Akondi and my system becomes usable. Simple as that. Not > everyone, in fact most people wouldn't be comfortable using a computer like > I do. That does not give me the right to feel superior and to make > sarcastic remarks about people who do not use a computer the way I do. Nor > is such behavior mature, or helpful. > > On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 3:58 AM Pete Nikolic <pg.nikol...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> One thing that I always find amusing is when people start whingeing about >> performance then you see a statement like I use chrome with 20 to 50 tabs >> open what justification have you got for WAISTING so many resources on >> browser tabs I find it laughable I have not had ONE person come back with >> a valid excuse for such waste yet maybe you will do better I doubt it thou . >> >> >> Pete . >> >> >> On Sun, 2 Sep 2018, 03:53 Draciron Smith, <draci...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> My normal desktop is Chrome with 20-50 tabs open, on this machine it's >>> KDE 4 so I had to switch to Open Office as Office Libre was super unstable. >>> I often have 7 to 10 documents open at same time as those Chrome tabs, >>> plus a Kate session with 3-10 docs in the Kate session plus misc apps such >>> as Dolphin, Krusader, Kconvert, Audacity, perhaps a few FF tabs and so on. >>> I do that on 4 gigs of ram and have for years. >>> >>> On the first machine machine I put KDE 5 on, it only has 2 gigs of ram >>> and 2 gig swap partition. It's sort of reflex for me to create swap >>> partition same size as ram. In hindsight I probably should have gone with a >>> 4 gig swap partition. With Akondi running it will even if I'm doing nothing >>> on that machine I will hear it start churning several hours after I boot >>> it. If I start putting a load on it then it craters rather quickly. >>> >>> That's the thing. I am not using ANY Akondi agents. I use webmail >>> clients for email, my phone is my contact manager, I never use Knotes or >>> any other Akondi enabled apps. >>> >>> Since I disabled Akondi I have no problem having several Office Libre >>> documents open at the same time as a dozen Chrome or FF tabs including >>> several that use Flash, as well as 2 to 5 PDF files open, Clemintine, >>> perhaps a Krusader or a few Dolphin windows and a Konsole session. I always >>> have a Konsole window open. First thing I do when I reboot. Since disabling >>> Akondi the only time I reboot is normal Kernel update reboots. Prior that I >>> might get a day or two before having to reboot, usually a cold boot using >>> the power button because it's churning so bad I can't even get to a console >>> window or SSH in to bring the machine down gracefully. >>> >>> On this machine SSh server is running and I took down some stuff like >>> Samba and MySQL and I had Barrios installed but it was too heavy on >>> resources for my liking on this machine so I removed it. My original intent >>> with this machine was to essentially a jukebox and once I'm done figuring >>> out if I can continue using KDE or am going to be forced to switched to >>> XFCE I will be building a few newer machines and this will go back to >>> being primarily a jukebox. My old Mac died however and I had to offload >>> what I normally do on the Mac to this 2 gig machine and with Akondi >>> disabled it's a little slow despite being a 7 year old Emachine that was >>> low end even 7 years ago, but gets the job done. I had 1.5 gigs of Ram >>> consumed before I opened ANYTHING with Akondi running. It essentially >>> turned a 2 gig machine into a half gig machine. >>> >>> I'll agree with you on FF being more memory intensive. In fact is has a >>> rather large memory leak somewhere, especially when dealing with Flash >>> websites. Which is the primary reason I switched to Chrome as primary >>> browser about 5 years ago. I still use FF for plugins that Chrome doesn't >>> have such as downloading videos, for secondary email accounts, things like >>> that. I don't usually leave it continuously running like I do Chrome which >>> stays up from about 10 seconds after I reboot until I reboot again or after >>> 2 or 3 months I might kill it and restart it to recover memory lost to >>> memory leaks if a kernel update hasn't forced me to reboot in a few >>> months. All my machines run 24/7. >>> >>> On Sat, Sep 1, 2018 at 11:56 AM René J.V. Bertin <rjvber...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On Saturday September 01 2018 10:34:02 Draciron Smith wrote: >>>> >>>> > The difference is night and day for me. I'll get an app open, maybe a >>>> > music player, maybe a web browser. Open a 2nd app and the machine >>>> starts >>>> > churning. If I don't head strait for a konsole window and kill Akondi >>>> > processes I will wind up mashing the power button as it locks up so >>>> hard I >>>> >>>> Something is definitely wrong there. What Akonadi agents are or were >>>> you using that blocked the machine to such an extent? It doesn't make sense >>>> that they would consume more resources than FF or Chrome running a >>>> full-blown session (FF is worse in terms of RAM usage than Chrome these >>>> days)... >>>> I'm tempted to ask if you have a sufficiently large swap partition but >>>> you must because otherwise I don't see how one could run FF/Chrome plus >>>> LibreOffice with a bunch of documents open. >>>> >>>>
