James Tyrer posted on Fri, 13 Jan 2012 13:06:59 -0700 as excerpted: > On 01/10/2012 08:39 PM, James Tyrer wrote: > >> I also note that the KDE throbber is back although it is on the >> Location Toolbar (putting it on the didn't seem to work with Qt. > > That would be putting it on the MenuBar that didn't work. Qt seemed to > fight against it.
Ahh... Rather clearer now. =:^) And yes, I had similar problems related to the throbber. I moved it to the location bar myself some time ago as a result. But ultimately there were much larger issues with konqueror as a web browser, at least two of which well demonstrated that the involved kde devs themselves consider it no more than a toy, unfit for "real" web browser use such as doing web banking, and I ended up solving them all for me personally, by switching to firefox instead. Other than being more reliable and better supported by web sites, etc, there were two major results to that switch, one positive, one negative: Positive: Both firefox and konqueror have extension support, but konqueror's userbase is simply too small to have developed a viable user extension community. Firefox's is **MUCH** larger, and in addition to the previously mentioned konqueror bugs, a BIG factor in my switch was actively developed and supported extensions such as noscript. I realized that there's simply no way konqueror could keep up with even that single extension let alone all the others, because they don't have the kde developer manpower to do it themselves, and they haven't developed a viable external extensions community as firefox has, in ordered to have an external entity provide and continue to support and develop the extension. FWIW, that's one of the reasons I picked firefox over chromium as well. Chromium's user base has arguably surpassed firefox's according to various statistics, and yes, there's an active user extension development community, but while it will very likely get there within a few years, the maturity and variety of available extensions at this point means firefox still has the lead in that regard. Another chromium negative for those of us with strong personal emphasis on freedom of freedomware is that the majority of the focus is on the servantware/proprietaryware chrome browser, and that's likely to create problems with extension support for users of its chromium freedomware brother. While firefox has a bit of that problem in terms of its MS vs *ix support, unlike chrome/chromium, from the viewpoint of the extensions developer, there's only the one firefox browser and it's freedomware. Negative: I still prefer kde's integrated bookmarks and use them in preference to firefox's builtin bookmarks. While kde's bookmarks now open in firefox so that's not an issue, creating a new kde bookmark for a page I'm currently visiting in firefox is significantly more difficult than creating the same kde bookmark from the same page visited in kde's konqueror. But talking about extensions... I wonder if there's a firefox extension to fix that... If not, perhaps I'll have to get even more deeply involved in firefox extensions and see about creating one... -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman ___________________________________________________ This message is from the kde-linux mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-linux. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
