On Wednesday 02 July 2014 19:00:49 Kevin Ottens wrote: > Hello, > > On Wednesday 02 July 2014 10:48:58 David Faure wrote: > > On Wednesday 02 July 2014 10:35:29 Jos Poortvliet wrote: > > > On Tuesday 01 July 2014 23:13:24 David Faure wrote: > > > > On Tuesday 01 July 2014 16:16:48 Jonathan Riddell wrote: > > > > > KDE Frameworks 5 gets its first release this week, anyone want to > > > > > help > > > > > me with a Dot story and release announcement? > > > > > > > > For linking from the announcement, I committed source-kf-5.0.0.inc > > > > to www/info > > > > > > I'll try to help where I can. I've set up a etherpad: > > > https://notes.kde.org/p/Frameworks5.0 > > Gave it a quick look, it's nice so far. Maybe a couple more examples of > frameworks we provide would be an idea? KConfig and Solid perhaps? > > > > I wrote the first 3 sentences explaining what Frameworks is. But I'll > > > need > > > to know some details about the first release and links to the full > > > list > > > of frameworks, tarballs etc. > > > Some questions: > > > * What is the final on the release schedule? > > > > Public release on Monday 7. > > > > BTW the release schedule for the next releases is up at > > http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/Frameworks > > > > > * What Qt version is this made for? > > > > Qt >= 5.2 > > > > > * any caveats developers should be aware off? > > > > The KAuth framework is not working on linux at the moment > > (unreleased dependency polkit-qt-1 + crash in Qt 5.2/5.3). > > > > (so basically it only works on Mac, since it has no backend for Windows) > > > > The only reason we're releasing it is that other things (kconfigwidgets, > > Plasma Next) depends on it to compile. But we know that this particular > > bit of functionality (running configuration modules as root) is broken > > for now. > And not really essential for most third parties. Only Plasma will be > affected in a minor fashion. > > > > * where can you 'get started' with Frameworks? > > > > Good question. > > I think > > http://api.kde.org/frameworks-api/frameworks5-apidocs/ > > is the main starting point for using frameworks. > > > > (Comment for K-F-D : I just noticed that this page uses the terms > > "functional", "integration" and "solution" without explaining what that > > means) > > Right, not sure where to get that changed. Aurélien? What about restating > what they mean? Or linking to the relevant place in the wikis. > > > For compiling them from sources we don't really have docu, we expect > > people to use distro packages instead. > > Depend which people we're thinking about. Some developer working on a third > party application targeting among other platforms Windows is likely to > build from source... he's also likely to just handpick a few frameworks. > > So I guess we're indeed missing a place to state how to build the things... > which really is in its most crude form: > cmake . > make > make install > > > Compiling all of them from sources "by hand" would be quite painful, > > compared to using kdesrc-build which handles dependencies. > > Which is the preferred method for people willing to contribute or track the > whole set of frameworks. > > > Of course compiling a single tier1 framework (after compiling ECM) is > > easy. > Exactly, and that has to be emphasized quite a bit (see above). > > > > Anything else? Please, shoot any ideas you have that users (that is Qt > > > developers in case of Framework) should be aware off... > > > > Out of ideas for now, I'll let other chime in. > > As long as we emphasize that a) most of them are easy to build for your own > project and b) that they provide proven solutions to a wide range of > common problems (making them the perfect companions for Qt), I will be > happy. :-) > > Cheers.
All implemented as far as I could. Please provide a last round of feedback before this gets put on the dot and on kde.org - I hope to have time for that later this weekend. I will also approach digia and KDAB for help in spreading the word on this, if you're associated/have contacts at other organizations that are prominent in the Qt ecosystem, please let them know about the Frameworks 5 release so they can support our release with a blog or on social media. We go live Monday the 7th, I propose 14:00 UTC (16:00 CEST). Cheers, Jos
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