On Monday, May 19th, 2025 at 02:34, Justin Zobel <jus...@1707.io> wrote:

> On 18/05/2025 16:41, Albert Vaca Cintora wrote:
> 

> > On Sun, 18 May 2025, 08:59 Justin Zobel, <jus...@1707.io> wrote:
> > 

> > > If the contributor cannot tell you the license(s) of the code that was 
> > > used to generate the code, then it's literally gambling that this code 
> > > wasn't taken from another project by Gemini and used without their 
> > > permission or used in a way that violates the license and opens up the 
> > > KDE e.V. to litigation.
> > 

> > 

> > I'm no lawyer but I would expect that training AI will fall under fair use 
> > of copyrighted code. If that's not the case already, it will probably be 
> > soon. The benefits of AI to society are too large to autoimpose such a 
> > roadblock.
> > 

> > Albert
> 

> From my understanding (what others have told me), AI generally does not 
> produce good quality code though. So how is that a benefit to society?

Well, in that case, those “others” are using them wrong or are just spreading 
second-hand misinformation.
If you really care about the licensing aspect, focus on it instead of diverting 
this thread into other topics with statements like this one.

As a data point, we've recently used AI models for our modernization work on 
https://invent.kde.org/websites/kde-ru, with careful manual review of course, 
and it has helped us perform the amount of work we physically would not have 
had the time to do ourselves. I cannot imagine any legal risks from reasonable 
use of LLMs for web development in KDE. If a ban is imposed on it, I'm unlikely 
to spend an order of magniute more time on this tedious work.

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