Hi, On Montag, 15. Januar 2018 13:00:13 CET Rahul Chowdhury wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 5:25 AM, Albert Astals Cid <aa...@kde.org> wrote: > > El dimecres, 10 de gener de 2018, a les 23:49:06 CET, Sayan Biswas va > > > > escriure: > >> Hi, > > > > Hi > > Hi, > > >> A very happy new year to all. Hope you guys are doing good. :) > >> > >> Me and Rahul (CC'ed; IRC nick - rahulch) came up with an idea for a > >> new application in KDE, and we were hoping to get an opinion on it. > >> > >> The central idea behind the app will be to manage the expenses of a > >> group of users. As a user, you can create one or more groups, add > >> members to them, and add entries for expenses for a given group. You > >> can also check the outstanding balances and choose to settle-up with one > >> or more members. There will be options for fine-tuning a given entry - > >> decide who all have born the total expenditure and by what > >> proportions, how should the total expense be divided among the members > >> (equally/specific amounts/etc), add pictures for receipts, add > >> comments, and so on and so forth. > > > > So somthing like a Splitwise Free Software clone, have you checked if one > > already exists? I know starting is half the fun, but maybe joining an > > existing project that does something similar and help them build a > > desktop application would also be nice. > > Yes, the idea is very much similar to Splitwise. They do not have any > desktop version yet. > We wanted to have some similar free desktop application in KDE. > > >> We are planning to start off with desktop application with a > >> decentralised > >> approach, i.e. the users will hold the data of the shared expenses. Now > >> again, there is a possibility of tampering with the expenditure so we > >> might > >> need to set a centralised archived or something similar data set to > >> maintain the integrity and persistence of a transaction. We are open to > >> opinions and discussions for this also. Further to that we will be > >> building > >> mobile application for the users ease of usage and add expenditure on the > >> go. After all, mobiles are more widely used by user than desktop > >> application. > >> > >> > >> For settling up we were thinking of integrating some standard payment > >> gateways (PayPal, etc) but I am not sure of how much of this > >> integration is possible in KDE. > > > > I don't understand this question, just open a webview to paypal and be > > done? > Not just open a webview or redirect to some paypal webpage in a > browser, but handle the entire transaction from the application itself > with some third party integration like PayU. If we could integrate one > or more such payment services/e-wallets with the application and > handle the paments it would be great. Do you know about the kde-finance-apps (developer) group? Maybe your application is something that fits in that area as well. See https:// community.kde.org/Alkimia for some ideas what is/can become part of a common code base. Some of the functions you are looking for have already been developed as part of other applications (e.g. KMyMoney). > >> Until then we can just maintain a > >> transaction record indicating that members A and B have settled up. We > >> were also considering developing a cryptocurrency (we could call it > >> KCoin or something) that would serve as a means of payment. Opinions > >> are welcome in this particular segment as possibilities can be immense. > > > > There are 1432 cryptocurrencies around, why would you do yet another one? > > > >> As for maintaining the ledgers, we wanted to implement it using > >> blockchain, but again, I am not sure if it can be done in KDE, or if > >> we have some libraries that support blockchain implementation, etc. > > > > What do you exactly mean by "it can be done in KDE"? > > Just wanted to know if the KDE frameworks/libraries currently support > blockchain implementation, or we will need to develop such libraries > first. > This is not a top priority in my opinion right now. We can go ahead > with a normal design and maintain a centralized database in the KDE > servers. Once we have a working prototype we can come back and try to > use blockchain in the app. > > >> An application like this comes in handy when a group of people need to > >> manage their regular expenses, and we thought it might be a good idea > >> to have something similar in KDE. The target audience for this will be > >> college groups, work groups, school groups, etc whoever is entitled to > >> shared expenditure. We would love to get your feedback, mainly on the > >> feasibility of the features mentioned above. > > > > Sure those applications make sense as shown by the millions of free as in > > beer version of them you can find in the mobile appstores, having a Free > > one totally makes sense. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Albert > >> > >> Regards, > >> Sayan > > Regards, > Rahul -- Regards Thomas Baumgart https://www.telegram.org/ Telegram, the better WhatsApp ------------------------------------------------------------- It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak, and remove all doubt. -------------------------------------------------------------
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