Any decision on that? Zombifying this topic will lead to 'solution' #2 (wrongdoing clients). Both #1 and #4 have disadvantages, I cannot estimate if distributed equally. And #3 could be added to the HIG right now:
* Consider to provide an option to override default shortcut for cut per strg+del, e.g. in order to forcefully empty the trash. But make sure ctrl+X is always available. We could also ask the community - I'd set-up a quick poll. Cheers, Heiko. Am 04.06.2015 09:41:22, schrieb Thomas Lübking: > On Donnerstag, 4. Juni 2015 07:50:00 CEST, Arjun AK wrote: > > On June 3, 2015 10:41:00 PM IST, Heiko Tietze > > > wrote: > >> On Wednesday 03 June 2015, 17:18:16 Thomas Lübking wrote: ... > > > > If not SHIFT+DEL, then what else would you recommend? > > Some more information here: > > - The Apple shortcut to > * delete[1] is Cmd+Del (⌘+Del), > * (forcefully) empty the trash is Cmd+Shift(+Option)+Delete. > > - The command key is semantically equal to the Meta/Windows key, but it's IBM > counterpart in shortcuts would be Ctrl. > > - The "Option" key is Alt/AltGr > > - Ctrl+Delete is taken by "Delete word forward" > > - Meta/Windows+Delete should be available - though it might be a neat Alt+F4 > replacement ;-) > > - Cmd+Shift+Option+Delete (the afaik only thing that forces deletion by > emptying the trash) would be available, but is oc. a "do not use me" combo. > > > > Nevertheless, Shift+Del *is* a popular shortcut to bypass the trashcan and if > you ask "ordinary" users what it does (not poll whether it should be cut or > delete, there's no good answer) I doubt you'll hear as single "cuts selection" > > > > To talk ppl. out of that, one could perhaps > > 1. define something like Meta+Del or Ctrl+Shift+Del as standard primary > shortcurt for "force deletion", > > 2. have "wrongdoing" clients to keep their Shift+Del behavior as alternate > shortcut, but > > 3. (of course) allow users to deactivate that (without having to come up with > an alternative) in order to resolve this conflict (if they want to use CUA > shortcuts) and > > 4. announce the "new" shortcut (ie. eg. display move to trash in Dolphin's > rmb menu when pressing Meta) and tell everybody "this is the legit shortcut > to force deletion, Dolphin et al. do wrong to mimic MS" > > Cheers, > Thomas > > [1] to trash, Mac users better don't bypass anything ;-P > _______________________________________________ > kde-guidelines mailing list > kde-guideli...@kde.org > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-guidelines > @user-prompt.com> -- Dipl.-Psych. Dr. Heiko Tietze Research & Project Management T +49 30 6098548-22 | M +49 179 1268509 User Prompt GmbH | Psychologic IT Expertise Grünberger Str. 49, 10245 Berlin | www.user-prompt.com HRB 142277 | AG Berlin Charlottenburg | Geschäftsführer Björn Balazs
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