On 05/03/2012 07:55 PM, Denis Koryavov wrote:
> От: "todd rme" <toddrme2...@gmail.com>
[...]
> http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=38913&hilit=dolphin+corner

Hello!

We thought about this function and arrived at a conclusion, that it will
be not very useful. Some time ago, we asked our users about selection
marker in folders and found, that many users do not understand what is this
function intended for. And only very few percent of users use this function
(for example, we disabled this function in Mandriva/ROSA by default and
did not receive any negative feedback about this).

Also, KLook can be used to see multiple files, so it will be not very good
usability thing: use action for one object to see several object. I think
it will be better to put a button for the KLook to the toolbar, so the
users,
who want to use mouse to use KLook will can do this.

Hm... In opposite to OS X' Finder per default Dolphin and Konqueror use single-click to enter a folder and to open a file. Assuming there is no hover-indicator like suggested at http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=38913&hilit=dolphin+corner but a button for KLook in the toolbar as you suggest: How will users be able to select one file/folder to launch KLook with the toolbar button?

I see only the following ways:
- The user presses Ctrl + left click on file followed by clicking the KLook-toolbar-button. Makes 2 clicks in sum. - The users activates the rubberband to select a file followed by clicking the KLook-toolbar-button. Again 2 clicks in sum. - The user takes the keyboard to select a file followed by clicking the KLook-toolbar-button (or pressing "Space" as shortcut). Again at least 2 key-presses or 1 key-press + 1 mouse-click.

Now in comparison to the suggestion given at
http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=38913&hilit=dolphin+corner there it is only needed to hover the file and press the preview-button...

Considering that KLook is inspired by "Quick Look" from Apple I think it is mandatory that starting KLook must be more efficient ("quick") than starting e.g. Gwenview, Okular or Dragon Player ;-)

Of course the suggestion at
http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=38913&hilit=dolphin+corner might not be the final solution and I'm aware that the selection-toggle might not be suitable for all users. But as long as we keep single-click per default for Dolphin and Konqueror we must come up with a way to start KLook with one action and not more - otherwise simply opening the application or using the Information Panel would be more efficient.

> And only very few percent of users use this function
> (for example, we disabled this function in Mandriva/ROSA by default and
> did not receive any negative feedback about this).

Users of course cannot complain about a missing functionality they are not aware of because it has been disabled. Instead they complain on bugs.kde.org that selecting in Dolphin/Konqueror is tricky and that it should use double-click per default ;-) We had this single-click/double-click discussion already 12 years ago and the outcome was that there simply is no default setting that satisfies all users out there. From the feedback at bugs.kde.org it seems that most users stay with the single-click setting and are fine with this, but the situation might probably be the same if we'd have chosen double-click per default. I don't know. In any case: The hover-buttons seem to work well in Gwenview, the folder-plasmoid and (at least from the feedback I got) also in Dolphin. So the idea at
http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=38913&hilit=dolphin+corner
is worth to consider from my point of view.

Best regards,
Peter


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WBR, Denis Koryavov.



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