> On Oct. 14, 2014, 6:38 p.m., Martin Gräßlin wrote: > > I'm not understanding the changes in Plasma Netbook. Why do you want the > > Netbook shell on OSX while on the other side you disabled the desktop > > shell? AFAIK you cannot replace the shell of OSX, so having Netbook sounds > > pretty useless to me. > > René J.V. Bertin wrote: > The point is not to have the shell, but to have access to plasmoids via > plasma-windowed (or plasmoid-viewer if that application is still around and > functional). > I've tried to explain that I have made a rather coarse selection > (everything also included in MS Windows builds and that actually builds) > rather than hand-picking only those components that would have a potential > use. Doing so I indeed noticed that the desktop shell was excluded on Win32 > but not the netbook shell. It didn't take me long to realise that the netbook > shell is different enough from the usual desktop paradigm to be of interest > to some users, to the extent that it can be made to function in a rooted, > normal window of course. > I am of course open to feedback concerning the components that can be > removed from the build without effect on components that do have a use. > > If I may think aloud a little bit: > Netbook or Desktop shells ... they open (fullscreen) windows in practice, > right? If so, there could be an (academic?) interest in supporting them but > with a regular window, allowing the user to set up a sort of MDI version of a > desktop shell with "goodies" that would give a more coherent experience than > running those same goodies individually on the OS X desktop. One could also > think of a "shell" that only serves to host panels and widgets, not unlike > Yahoo! Widgets (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahoo!_Widgets) > > Martin Gräßlin wrote: > > Netbook or Desktop shells ... they open (fullscreen) windows in > practice, right? > > no, they open "desktop" windows. > > > If so, there could be an (academic?) interest in supporting them but > with a regular window > > no, that's what plasma-windowed is for. And I'm certainly not giving a +1 > for the rather big changes to netbook shell if the only need is on an > academic scale ;-)
I wasn't about to start hacking to pursue any of these ideas, and certainly not in KDE4. We'll see if and when we get to KF5 on OS X but in the meantime the thought is out there. In case there are KDE developers outside of the kde-mac "kernel" who'd appreciate to see part of the power of a KDE desktop available beyond Linux and other Unix/X11 systems. Now that you mention plasma-windowed: I *would* like to get that utility to be able to run in multiple instances! Whatever good reasons there might be on *n*x for it to be a KUniqueApplication, on OS X there's a good reason for it not to be ... - René J.V. ----------------------------------------------------------- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/120287/#review68404 ----------------------------------------------------------- On Oct. 14, 2014, 6:06 p.m., René J.V. Bertin wrote: > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: > https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/120287/ > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > (Updated Oct. 14, 2014, 6:06 p.m.) > > > Review request for KDE Software on Mac OS X and kde-workspace. > > > Repository: kde-workspace > > > Description > ------- > > A few rather straightforward patches to make the relevant bits of KDE4's > kde-workspace build and function on OS X. > The main interest is having the systemsettings control panel to control the > various relevant KDE settings among which desktop search, fonts, colours and > even style. > The oxygen style builds and looks good but shows some updating glitches due > to compositing. > > I'm submitting this patch partly in hope it may be useful in bringing > kf5-workspace to OS X, one day. > > > Diffs > ----- > > CMakeLists.txt df8a1f7 > kcontrol/CMakeLists.txt fc666b1 > kcontrol/krdb/krdb.cpp 36fc99c > kcontrol/style/CMakeLists.txt d832b20 > libs/CMakeLists.txt c0576fe > plasma/CMakeLists.txt 199dbb0 > plasma/generic/shells/plasma-windowed/plasmaapp.cpp dbdff47 > plasma/netbook/CMakeLists.txt 1eff685 > plasma/netbook/containments/CMakeLists.txt c96a688 > plasma/desktop/CMakeLists.txt 2de78dd > plasma/desktop/applets/CMakeLists.txt 6f80cec > plasma/generic/CMakeLists.txt cfaf14f > plasma/generic/applets/CMakeLists.txt 2b888ee > plasma/generic/dataengines/CMakeLists.txt d240683 > plasma/generic/runners/CMakeLists.txt 6831ac0 > plasma/generic/shells/plasma-windowed/CMakeLists.txt 86b7770 > plasma/generic/shells/plasma-windowed/Info.plist.template PRE-CREATION > > Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/120287/diff/ > > > Testing > ------- > > On OS X 10.6.8 and 10.9.4 with KDE/MacPorts (4.12.5 and more recently kdelibs > git/master, 4.14.1). > > > File Attachments > ---------------- > > copy of the diff file saved locally, which had no tabs when I uploaded it. > Checksum: 3989cdd46af3c891e570974d66c330403dcd41c4ee5e17a372fa385080cbabd1 > > https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/media/uploaded/files/2014/09/20/b212730f-6258-4277-851c-226bc0673aa1__patchreview-20140920.patch > > > Thanks, > > René J.V. Bertin > >
