Mardi, le 1 février 2011, à 20:10, Sune Vuorela a écrit: > On 2011-02-01, Friedrich W. H. Kossebau <kosse...@kde.org> wrote: > > We can't assume for all, but in many installations the user does. Like > > the ususal private computer. > > For administrated systems, there could be a substitute which instead of > > allowing to install rather aids the user to file a request to the admin, > > for convenience and getting things done. > > > >> and we shouldn't set up a complete development > >> environment for him. > > > > I was thinking of interfacing to the normal packaging system of the > > system. He, something like DrKonqi installing the debug info packages on > > request. So something like that is existing already, just needs to be > > generalized perhaps. > > Basically, a piece of software than have three relations: > 1) Required things > 2) Optional things that should be availably by default > 3) optional things that doesn't need to be available by default > > Packagers should assure that 1) is around. Packagers should try hard to > make 2) available for all not uncommon installations. > > if 1) is missing, file bugs at the distribution. > if 2) is missing, file bugs at the distribution or alternatively tell > the user "you broke your system, you get to keep the pieces". > > And then there is the handling of 3). > > Well.. let's not make it a bigger issue than it actually is.
Ah, Sune, guess we were missing each other :) I was talking of currently not installed optional things. And not speaking of optional things not existing as packages. E.g. imagine someone installing some program over an expensive/slow connection (think mobile). She just installs the required things, to keep the needed bandwith low. Then hits a feature which is more useful with some optional thing X. Ideally the feature's code would be able to offer the action "Trigger install of optional thing X to pimp doing Y". Does this help to understand what I am looking forward to? Cheers Friedrich -- Desktop Summit 2011 - Berlin, Germany - August 6-12th - www.desktopsummit.org