https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=484986
--- Comment #4 from arthurfermor...@gmail.com --- (In reply to Tiar from comment #3) > > how many people will actually update the program if the visuals remain the > > same? > > I think many people do get excited about the new useful features when they > see it. Though of course visuals are important too. > > Anyway, the problem with scrollbars and color-schemes/themes is that there > are not two separate colors for the bar and the background of the scrollbar, > but just one color that is modified to be lighter and darker for the bar and > the background respectively. That color is "BackgroundNormal" in section > "[Colors:Normal]". You can set it to "255,0,0" to see the whole bar changing > to red. > > From what I checked, you can get better contrast (using the standard Krita > Dark theme) if you set it to "90,90,90", and basically the lighter it is, > the better the contrast. "100,100,100" is mostly usable too, but keep in > mind that the higher you go, the less contrast you have with text. It looks > a bit uglier but it works better, I guess. The theme that works best is > Krita Bright, I believe. > > The documentation I could find is here: > https://docs.kde.org/stable5/en/plasma-workspace/kcontrol/colors/index.html > > There is a chance that the settings on top: "[ColorEffects:Disabled]" and > "[ColorEffects:Inactive]" might have some effect on the scrollbar but I > doubt it. > > There is an option to create a new style (but that would mean forking > Fusion, I think? Probably bundling Breeze would be way less invasive and > there is a good reason why we don't do that), or apply a stylesheet (but in > that case we wouldn't be able to use themes). We could possibly patch Fusion > for our own builds, or maybe replace all scrollbars with a custom one with a > custom painting process. > > Not sure if the effort is worth it. I've seen people complaining about this > before so it does seem to be at least partially an issue, but whether or > what we should do about this is another matter. > > Maybe we should downgrade it to a wishlist, too. The slider is not unusable, > and one can use Krita Bright theme for better contrast. my point is not that it is unusable, but it seems like a broken feature, and is not achieving the intended effect. My main issue is with the hover over animation which is almost imperceptable. I have a screen capture here that hopefully demonstrates the comparison. https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1bErfDRO0mhAQmpO1PpmKTL_123R9jVsI?usp=drive_link In terms of usability, I think this is well below the recommended contrast for accessability https://webaim.org/articles/contrast/#sc143 My preference would be to have a lower contrast UI to emphasize the components that I am actually interacting with, like the color selector, while maintaining visual contrast through context sensitivity. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.