https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=478824
--- Comment #2 from github5...@der-he.de --- Thanks for your answer. no, focus stealing is not the topic here. Btw. I know there are means to prevent focus stealing, but I wouldn't call it "robust" on any of the current systems. Not at all. Focus stealing is still omnipresent on every system, likewise on KWin. For example I have some subpar user experiences with autofs auto mounting nfs storage, which pops up some message on kde/plasma which does steal the terminal focus here, for me. Having said that, that's not my point here with this feature request. Not at all. I didn't describe focus stealing here, even if this is also a topic where KWin could be improved. The named windows or pop ups here do not have to steal steal focus. They simply just appear (maybe without any input focus at all) but they get the focus "by intent" as the user activates it via some mouse click "by intent" within just a few nanoseconds(!) after their appearance. The typical user may have planned to hit some other window, at the place where the new window or popup appears. But like you said, clicking the new window is "by intent", even within just a few nanoseconds after their appearance, because - like you said - "after you get familiar with a system, it is indeed possible to interact with it basically at the speed of thought" - and the computer thinks in nanoseconds, not hundreds of milliseconds like a typical human does. So, if experienced KWin users also do think in nanoseconds, then I am definitely not an experienced KWin user. YMMV Yet, if the status quo is ok for the devs, then that's fine! Indeed, I don't think this will change any time soon. I don't think any of the alternate desktops will find a solution here before any of the big players like Apple or Microsoft will do so. It will come as a plagiarism, at the earliest, if at all, as most of the usability improvements do. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
