https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=461797
--- Comment #2 from Nick <ndor...@gmail.com> --- Hello, I tried again then I used journalctl -a | grep systemsettings ..... I got this info ... Nov 13 21:40:32 suse4Rocco.dom kcminit_startup[6336]: Initializing "/usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/plasma/kcms/systemsettings/kcm_fonts.so" Nov 13 21:40:32 suse4Rocco.dom kcminit_startup[6336]: Initializing "/usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/plasma/kcms/systemsettings/kcm_style.so" Nov 13 21:40:32 suse4Rocco.dom kcminit_startup[6336]: Initializing "/usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/plasma/kcms/systemsettings/kcm_mouse.so" Nov 13 21:40:36 suse4Rocco.dom kcminit_startup[6336]: Initializing "/usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/plasma/kcms/systemsettings/kcm_touchpad.so" Nov 13 21:40:36 suse4Rocco.dom kcminit_startup[6336]: Initializing "/usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/plasma/kcms/systemsettings/kcm_kgamma.so" Nov 13 21:44:42 suse4Rocco.dom systemd[4809]: Started systemsettings. Nov 13 21:44:44 suse4Rocco.dom systemsettings[26103]: file:///usr/lib64/qt5/qml/org/kde/kirigami.2/PlaceholderMessage.qml:220:5: QML Heading: Binding loop detected for property "verticalAlignment" Nov 13 21:52:12 suse4Rocco.dom systemsettings[3934]: file:///usr/lib64/qt5/qml/org/kde/kirigami.2/PlaceholderMessage.qml:220:5: QML Heading: Binding loop detected for property "verticalAlignment"Nov 13 21:40:32 suse4Rocco.dom kcminit_startup[6336]: Initializing "/usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/plasma/kcms/systemsettings/kcm_fonts.so" Nov 13 21:40:32 suse4Rocco.dom kcminit_startup[6336]: Initializing "/usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/plasma/kcms/systemsettings/kcm_style.so" Nov 13 21:40:32 suse4Rocco.dom kcminit_startup[6336]: Initializing "/usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/plasma/kcms/systemsettings/kcm_mouse.so" Nov 13 21:40:36 suse4Rocco.dom kcminit_startup[6336]: Initializing "/usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/plasma/kcms/systemsettings/kcm_touchpad.so" Nov 13 21:40:36 suse4Rocco.dom kcminit_startup[6336]: Initializing "/usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/plasma/kcms/systemsettings/kcm_kgamma.so" Nov 13 21:44:42 suse4Rocco.dom systemd[4809]: Started systemsettings. Nov 13 21:44:44 suse4Rocco.dom systemsettings[26103]: file:///usr/lib64/qt5/qml/org/kde/kirigami.2/PlaceholderMessage.qml:220:5: QML Heading: Binding loop detected for property "verticalAlignment" Nov 13 21:52:12 suse4Rocco.dom systemsettings[3934]: file:///usr/lib64/qt5/qml/org/kde/kirigami.2/PlaceholderMessage.qml:220:5: QML Heading: Binding loop detected for property "verticalAlignment" I hope that it would help in pinpointing to the issue . ===================================================== Then I tried a shortcut ...... A) reboot at login time selected GNOME on Xorg and login as usual ...... B) while in GNOME I tried to see what happens if systemsettings5 is started ..... VOILA systemsettings5 started fine I changed bb10dark to awaita dark then shutdown C) at login change GNOME to Plasma(X11) login .... and everything is working fine . Should you have any comments/requests please let me know . Thank you, Nick -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.