https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=480458
--- Comment #5 from John <ilikef...@waterisgone.com> --- (In reply to Nate Graham from comment #4) > In order to turn this on by default, we need to figure out what to do about > touchpad scrolling. Right now a two-finger touchpad gesture pans, rather > than scrolling. If we turn the option on by default, we lose that, and the > touchpad UX isn't as nice. That's why it nice to talk to you and other developers / users here with replies and comments... Somebody always mentions something that I haven't thought about, when I complain or express my view about somehting, which seems to be the case here too as I haven't thought about any problem for touchpad users as I very rarely use it. > This isn't a catastrophe, but it would be a regression for touchpad users. > Until someone does some work to improve this situation, it has to remain an > off-by-default feature. In my case, I own and use a desktop and a laptop. Each of my parents own and use a desktop. A friend uses a laptop. For the desktops, that obviously don't have touchpads, rotating the mouse wheel is 100% failure. For the laptops, that have touchpads, rotating the mouse wheel is 100% failure. So both the desktop users and the primarily mouse laptop users are screwed so that the touchpad laptop users don't have any problems? I find it kinda strange to screw 2 types of users of 1 type of users. What kind of majority are decisions based on? But who knows, maybe I'm biased or more annoyed because I'm obviously a mouse user when I use my desktop and I'm primarily a mouse user when I use my laptop as I hate to use the touchpad and I do it only if I don't have my mouse or there's a problem with my mouse for any reason. So for the both and only cases how normally I use my computers (the desktop and laptop with the mouse) I'm annoyed about this. What is more annoying is the fact that since a mouse is connected to my laptop, Plasma still doesn't do an educated guess that I prefer to use a mouse. Or use the fact that I'm moving the mouse and I'm clicking the buttons on it instead of the touchpad. I wonder, with all the advanced features that touchpads have, like detecting: -right side up / down vertical swipe - whatever side up / down 2 finger vertical swipe - whatever side up / down 3 finger vertical swipe - diagonal 2 finger closing or moving away from each other Does the mouse still need to be impaired so that there are no conflicts with the touchpads? Also, can't Qt / KDE software figure out from which type of physical devices an action came from? Like always allow the mouse wheel rotation to zoom in or or out. And do something else for the touchpad, if it happens both to be connected, which is maybe not very often but anyway. I just test what my touchpad does with an image: Pinch-in -> zoom in Pinch-out -> zoom out 2 fingers vertical swipe -> scroll up or down (if the image has been zoomed in) 2 finger horizontal swipe -> nothing (even though I expected / wished it would go to the next or previous image, like the back / forward buttons on my mouse 1 finger swipe / move -> moves just the mouse cursor (as expected). I'm sorry, but I'm a bit confused why wouldn't in my use case with the laptop that has a mouse attached wouldn't both the rotation of the mouse wheel and the pinc in/ out of the touchpad work to zoom in / out the images by default? Is it because some touchpads are not so accurate / good to support this 2 finger pinch in / out? Can you at least please tell me how to set Gwenview's mouse wheel behavior to be zoom from the command line? Somebody once told me on some forum, but I forgot where it was and no search engine can find it anywhere. :-( I have a post-install script to do stuff for me automatically so installing / reinstalling the OS on my computers and the computers of my parents and friends would be less annoying with so many little things to configure everywhere to have better defaults for me and for them. Anyway, I hope somebody one day figures and solves all the potential conficts or regressions for touchpad users so this can be a good default for us, primarily mouse users too. Have a good day and thanks for the amazing work all KDE developers are doing! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
