https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=498849

--- Comment #4 from John <ilikef...@waterisgone.com> ---
(In reply to Vlad Zahorodnii from comment #3)
> Can you attach a debugger to kwin and get its backtrace when the session is
> frozen? https://community.kde.org/KWin/Debugging

I'm not sure!
I have never done that.
And that tutorial I think it will take a while to read and follow, if I can do
it.

I'm not sure if I explained this properly, I can reproduce it only on KDE Neon
running directly from the USB flash drive.
KDE Neon is  booted in live mode so even if something is being written
automatically or by me triggering to some log file, I cannot get that file  as
it's gone after reboot and if I remember well, the only thing that I could do
when the session freezes was a force reboot by holding the power button for a
few seconds.
I'm not sure, but I thing that Ctrl + Alt + F3 was not working either! (but
this I will try again to be sure)

So, the next time I'll try to reproduce this, I'll have to configure a log file
to be written outside of KDE Neon.
My USB drive, that I made bootable with Ventoy has an extra partition where I
can put data permanently.
Or I can open the driver where I have Debian + Plasma 6.25 and navigate tot the
Desktop folder. (Hopefully writing there doesn't break my installation.
I can try the USB extra partition and later the install partition if the USB is
just too slow to handle both running KDE Neon and writing that log file.

Here I don't know how to tell Plasma / Kwin, to write the log file in the
partition and folder where I can access it later.
And I'm not sure that tutorial covers it.

As this:
 The logs for Wayland are located in:
~/.local/share/sddm/wayland-session.log

Doesn't help me as they are still inside temporary booted image, which will be
wiped by the reboot.

And this:
KDE neon
Neon has the debug symbols in its regular repository. 

It's pretty bad as in my opinion they should've been installed by for such a
testing distro.
In my case it's even worse worse as I have internet only from a mobile hotspot.
So if they are too large, they will consume too much from my monthly data plan
and I can't do it.

So my questions for the moment are:
1. Are those debug symbols needed and are they really big, like more than 500
MiB?
2. Is there a easy way to divert the log file(s) to a custom location, like
another  disk / partition?

I can't wipe my installed OS or have a spare computer to install KDE Neon.
But in case it's not possible to divert the log file(s), I think Ventoy has a
tutorial do do a persistence file and I can config it to be used by KDE Neon,
but when I used a persistence file like that with any distro, after booting it
everything was really sluggish.
So I would prefer to avoid this alternative is possible and just directly
divert the log file to a permanent partition.

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