further research seems to indicate that
1. the WMS server does not advertise a _https_ but a plain _http_ url
2. trying to connect to it reveals that this url redirects via status 302 
(temporarily moved) to the _https_
 location again
3. this probably fails because of 
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1884230/httpurlconnection-doesnt-follow-redirect-from-http-to-https

suggestions? ..ede

On 31.12.2019 12:24, ede wrote:
> On 31.12.2019 12:06, edgar.sol...@web.de wrote:
> 
>          1. When adding the WM layer URL 
> (https://idt2-geoserver.regione.veneto.it/geoserver/ows) the server answer 
> (IMG WMS1): /The WMS advertises the URL 
> https://idt2-geoserver.regione.veneto.it/geoserver/ows?SERVICE=WMShttps://idt2-geoserver.regione.veneto.it/geoserver/ows?SERVICE=WMS
>  as GetMap-URL. Do you want to use it?/
>             seems like the url is identical apart from the query string, so 
> it might be a bug on our side.
> 
> replying to myself here. tried it and indeed we end up with a WMS layer Url 
> (right click "Edit WMS Query") that ends with a question mark, which 
> shouldn't be there but not a problem as well. removing that, reconnect and 
> all is well.
> 
> will have a look.. ede
> 
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> 
> *[bugs:#489] <https://sourceforge.net/p/jump-pilot/bugs/489/> Veneto Region 
> (Italy) WMS sevice does not work on OpenJump*
> 
> *Status:* open
> *Labels:* WMS
> *Created:* Wed Dec 11, 2019 04:04 PM UTC by Roberto Rossi
> *Last Updated:* Mon Dec 30, 2019 12:08 PM UTC
> *Owner:* nobody
> *Attachments:*
> 
>   * WMS1.jpg 
> <https://sourceforge.net/p/jump-pilot/bugs/489/attachment/WMS1.jpg> (72.1 kB; 
> image/jpeg)
>   * WMS2.jpg 
> <https://sourceforge.net/p/jump-pilot/bugs/489/attachment/WMS2.jpg> (143.6 
> kB; image/jpeg)
>   * WMS3.jpg 
> <https://sourceforge.net/p/jump-pilot/bugs/489/attachment/WMS3.jpg> (27.9 kB; 
> image/jpeg)
> 
> The Veneto Region (Italy) WMS sevice does not work on OpenJump.
> 1. When adding the WM layer URL 
> (https://idt2-geoserver.regione.veneto.it/geoserver/ows) the server answer 
> (IMG WMS1): /The WMS advertises the URL 
> <https://idt2-geoserver.regione.veneto.it/geoserver/ows?SERVICE=WMS>https://idt2-geoserver.regione.veneto.it/geoserver/ows?SERVICE=WMS
>  as GetMap-URL. Do you want to use it?/
> 2. then the open window correctly shows the /Available layers/ list (IMG WMS2)
> 3. finally it adds the layer in the Working Category, but the map i s empty, 
> and in the status bar the message/No description was provided/ appears
> 
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