essentially as a informatics science degree holder i know what it is, how to do 
it. for web indexing, crawling and such.

wrt. to our download stats. for a start we don't know how reliable the numbers 
of sf.net really are. for the sake of argument let's assume they are correct.

snapshots:
snapshot download stats look healthy to me. that most are downloaded at least 
one time smells like a robot. but that stopped in between and really makes no 
difference. maybe somebody mirrored us for a short while.

releases:
we seem to have 3000 downloads a month for the last year (whole '/OpenJUMP').

1.6.3 as a long standing release got ca. downloads/month
 1000 - OpenJUMP-Installer-1.6.3-r3576-CORE.exe
 250  - OpenJUMP-Installer-1.6.3-r3576-CORE.jar
 400  - OpenJUMP-Installer-1.6.3-r3576-PLUS.exe
 150  - OpenJUMP-Installer-1.6.3-r3576-PLUS.jar
 75   - OpenJUMP-Portable-1.6.3-r3576-CORE.zip
 200  - OpenJUMP-Portable-1.6.3-r3576-PLUS.zip
 40   - OpenJUMP-1.6.3-r3576-apidocs.zip
 175  - OpenJUMP-1.6.3-r3576-src.zip
 100  - readme.txt
which accumulates to ca. 2300 downloads/month only. dunno where the missing 700 
downloads are but probably older releases or just an accounting error of sf.net 
.

anyway, 2000 downloads a month does not seem excessive to me. the internet is 
big and we've got a quality _free_ product. also the numbers are believably 
spread over countries
https://sourceforge.net/projects/jump-pilot/files/OpenJUMP/stats/map?dates=2013-05-22%20to%202014-05-22
where we develop or have proper language support.

in conclusion i am inclined to believe that we are heavily used or at least 
tried out. i think trial takes a big bite because these users might just not 
use OJ frequently or at all. they might just wanna have a look and then 
continue to use their expensively licensed proprietary software.
my other side project for example http://duply.net/ has around 400 monthly 
downloads but targets a much more select usership. admins running backups on 
linux from shell, mainly servers or maybe nas systems. additionally it gets 
packaged in several distros so these numbers wont show up.
comparing the numbers i don't feel that OJ as a desktop software offered for 
three major OS's is downloaded excessively but competitively well.

wrt. user feedback. duply does generate the occasional bug report maybe once a 
month (12 per year) and feature requests or patches. considering the nature of 
duply users (admins, programmers ...), which are presumably more engaged and 
motivated, this is still the real world turnout.
truth is, people are consumers.. for example - duplicity, the software to which 
duply is a frontend, is used as primary backup software on Ubuntu! i am helping 
with duplicity as well and can say that the throughput of tickets, mailing list 
and patches is easily manageable for one person. the "community" seems to be 
usually not interested in involvement, unfortunately.

finally, we should probably consider making PLUS the default download distro 
because it seem to be quite popular although not actively featured.

..some thoughts ..ede

PS: http://www.dilbert.com/fast/2014-05-22/

On 22.05.2014 18:40, Stefan Steiniger wrote:
> I wonder what is your knowledge on "robot-created-downloads"?
> 
> stefan
> 
> Am 21.05.14 05:24, schrieb edgar.sol...@web.de:
>> On 21.05.2014 00:44, Stefan Steiniger wrote:
>>> but so many robots - in different countries ;)
>>> I would think we may have only 1/10th robot download, if.
>>> Maybe Ede knows more?
>>
>> how do you mean? ..ede
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