what if the screen is so small that the user has to pan multiple times to get 
where he wants?
what if the user does not want to digitize at all but simply pan around and 
just accidentally had the drawing tool activated before?

..ede

On 15.04.2013 12:30, Rahkonen Jukka wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> It is about compromising and optimizing. It is also not correct to assume 
> that user would never like to return to drawing tool after the first pan.
> 
> With the material I have been working with, I consider that it is a correct 
> assumption in more than 95% of the cases that operator wants to add at least 
> one vertex after the first pan and in this case automatic switch back to 
> digitizing mode saves one mouse click. If it was not the case, the pan tool 
> should be selected again which means only one click more and the situation 
> would be the same than with the forced "Select Pan tool - Pan - Select 
> drawing tool - Draw" workflow . If there is a land parcel or a road that must 
> be digitized it is very uncommon to do several pans between the vertices. I 
> think that Uwe's idea is reasonable.
> 
> -Jukka Rahkonen-
> 
> 
> edgar Soldin wrote:
> 
>> this assumes that users always want to return to a drawing tool after the 
>> first
>> pan. not sure that this is a correct assumption.
>>
>> ..ede
>>
>> On 15.04.2013 11:59, Uwe Dalluege wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> what do you think about this?
>>>
>>> 1. Start drawing.
>>> 2. Click with the mouse the pan button.
>>> 3. Pan with LeftPressed.
>>> 4. Release the LeftButton and you can continue drawing.
>>>
>>> Is this practicable?
>>>
>>> Uwe
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 15.04.2013 11:47, schrieb edgar.sol...@web.de:
>>>> that's a problem. java has issues separating double clicks from micro
>> drags. also this wouldn't work for the selection tool, which itself uses
>> dragging for selecting via fence.
>>>>
>>>> ..ede
>>>>
>>>> On 15.04.2013 11:44, Rahkonen Jukka wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> The best option for panning would be "Left click-Drag".  It is an 
>>>>> industrial
>> standard nowadays because all the OpenLayers and Leaflet applications use
>> that. And it works with one hand and without a keyboard.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Jukka-
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> what about the one handed and the one's who can't afford a keyboard
>>>>>> ;) (there is actually a virtual one in every major os)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ..ede
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 15.04.2013 11:03, Rahkonen Jukka wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Take it as a big :) because your students will learn a much more
>>>>>>> efficient
>>>>>> way to pan during editing.  Changing the tools from the tool box is
>>>>>> pure waste of time.  Absolutely learn them also to zoom in/out with
>>>>>> Alt-Left/right click and select with Ctrl-Draw a box (Ctrl-Shift adds to
>> selection).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Jukka-
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Uwe Dalluege wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Jukka,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> with shift + alt it works.
>>>>>>>> I have to change my tutorial :-(
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> uwe
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Am 15.04.2013 10:34, schrieb Rahkonen Jukka:
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Use shortcuts.  There has always been a shortcut for panning
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> "Ctrl-
>>>>>>>> Shift-Drag".  Now it is also possible to pan also with Ctrl-Arrow
>>>>>>>> keys.  See Help-Shortcuts and you will find much more.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Jukka Rahkonen-
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Uwe Dalluege
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> how can I pan during editing?
>>>>>>>>>> In older OJ versions I could:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 1. Start drawing a linestring.
>>>>>>>>>> 2. Strg + pan.
>>>>>>>>>> 3. pan
>>>>>>>>>> 4. Mark in Editing Toolbox linestring again an draw so on.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In the latest nightbuilds this does not work!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Do you have change something?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Uwe
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