On 15.03.2013 11:36, Rahkonen Jukka wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> It feels a bit odd that it is not possible to re-use existing image layers 
> stored into JML format in other projects simply by opening the catalog file 
> from user interface.  I am doing similar things pretty often with Quantum GIS 
> and GDAL vrt files which I create with gdalbuildvrt 
> http://www.gdal.org/gdalbuildvrt.html

but, the obviously initially intended use, creating a multiple image layer and 
saving/reopen it with the current project works so far? how about 
absolute/relative path issues?
 
> Image layer manager is a sketch. 

do you know where it stems from?

>For OpenJUMP user interface it is a normal vector layer and it is possible to 
>insert new features by digitizing, copying from other layers and as WKT. All 
>those operations are useless unless user copies features from other image 
>layers. Fortunately nonsense features in image layer  seem to lead only to 
>Class Not Found Exception messages in the lower left corner. 

we can easily prohibit editing via cursor tools or such. snapshots seem to have 
that already implemented.

>Possibility to hand edit attributes may be useful sometimes for changing image 
>paths but not for anything else.  And if a normal user opens a tiff file and 
>gets layer named "image.tif" I guess that he believes that menu option "Save 
>dataset as" means saving image to some other image format and not saving image 
>footprint into vector file.

True, we should probably create sham file format (your catalog file), which in 
reality is merely the "special" jml.

> I think that before advertising image layer tool too much we should think 
> what would be a good way to use this nice feature and how user interface 
> should support the usage.  

what about A/B from below?

>My opinion is that the first thing to do would be to separate the image 
>catalogue layers somehow from the normal vector layers and make them editable 
>only through Image Layer Manager 

seems done in snapshots.

>which should have more features than it has now.

what are you missing exactly? is adding/removing not enough for a start?

..ede

> 
> -Jukka-
> 
> 
> edgar soldin wrote:
>  
>> move it over to jump-devel.
>>
>> true, the OJ image loader works that way.
>>
>> a am not sure about your catalog idea though as i feel, creating a image
>> collection layer once and saving it with the project should be sufficient for
>> most use cases.
>>
>> i think:
>> A. we should place the image layer manager more prominently for users to
>> discover this mechanism (higher in layer context menu, add to layer menu).
>> B. replace the image layer icon with a multiple images icon
>>
>> ..ede
>>
>>
>> On 15.03.2013 10:14, Jukka Rahkonen wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Add image layer is much more than another name for "Open image file"
>>> but nobody knows it and the image layer system has never been
>>> programmed ready. Read
>>> http://latuviitta.org/documents/OpenJUMP_image_layer_tool.pdf
>>>
>>> Add Image Layer opens an image file but it also creates an image
>>> catalogue which can hold many images. This image layer can also be
>>> saved as a vector layer in Jump JML format but there is no way to open
>>> such saved image catalogue because there is not such an option in
>>> anywhere in the user interface. Only way to utilize the saved image
>>> layer is to save also the project.
>>>
>>> Logical places for the "Open Image Catalog" operation would be through
>>> a new button in Image Layer Manager tool and in the open Wizard as a
>>> new file type "Image Catalog". It should be handled in a special way
>>> because it is actually a vector file but users to not want to see the
>>> footprint polygons but the mapped images.
>>>
>>> -Jukka Rahkonen-
>>>
>>> edgar.sol...@web.de wrote:
>>>> On 14.03.2013 21:36, Stefan Steiniger wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> About removing "File> Open File", well, having it there is fine with
>>>>> me, even if it is redundant.
>>>>
>>>> open project and open file are the essential open mechanisms and
>>>> belong under File main menu entry. this is where users are used to
>>>> find it (in software generally) and expect it!
>>>>
>>>> add image layer is merely there because nobody found the time to
>>>> write an openwizard for it.
>>>>
>>>> ..ede
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