Hi,

I did not remember at all that ticket but it is indeed still a problem.  See 
below the SQL requests which are send when moving on the map. There are three 
requests per layer: find the extent, find some metadata and finally get the 
data.

1. SELECT AsBinary(find_extent( 'osm_line', 'way' ));
2. SELECT AsBinary(find_extent( 'osm_polygon', 'way' ));

3. SELECT column_name FROM information_schema.columns WHERE lower(table_schema) 
= 'public' AND lower(table_name) = 'osm_line';
4. SELECT column_name FROM information_schema.columns WHERE lower(table_schema) 
= 'public' AND lower(table_name) = 'osm_polygon';

5. SELECT AsEwkb("way") as 
way,"osm_id","note","source","access","addr:housenumber","addr:street","addr:postcode","addr:city","admin_level","aerialway","aeroway","amenity","area","barrier","bicycle","bridge","boundary","building","construction","craft","cutting","disused","embankment","foot","highway","historic","horse","junction","landuse","layer","learning","leisure","lock","man_made","maxspeed","military","motorcar","name","natural","office","oneway","operator","power","power_source","place","railway","ref","religion","residence","route","service","shop","sport","surface","tourism","tracktype","tunnel","waterway","width","wood","z_order","way_area","tags","priority"
 FROM "osm_line" t WHERE "way" && SetSRID('BOX3D(331986.16357747343 
6904187.263884243,335072.0738679022 6907136.144410443)'::box3d,3067) AND 
highway is not null LIMIT 100;

6. SELECT AsEwkb("way") as 
way,"osm_id","note","source","access","addr:housenumber","addr:street","addr:postcode","addr:city","admin_level","aerialway","aeroway","amenity","area","barrier","bicycle","bridge","boundary","building","construction","craft","cutting","disused","embankment","foot","highway","historic","horse","junction","landuse","layer","learning","leisure","lock","man_made","maxspeed","military","motorcar","name","natural","office","oneway","operator","power","power_source","place","railway","ref","religion","residence","route","service","shop","sport","surface","tourism","tracktype","tunnel","waterway","width","wood","z_order","way_area","tags"
 FROM "osm_polygon" t WHERE "way" && SetSRID('BOX3D(331986.16357747343 
6904187.263884243,335072.0738679022 6907136.144410443)'::box3d,3067) LIMIT 100;

Here are my timings:
1. 24612 ms
2. 26762 ms
3. 67 ms
4. 67 ms
5. 84 ms
6. 160 ms

Timings when finding the estimated extents with SELECT 
AsBinary(estimated_extent( 'osm_line', 'way' ));
1. with estimated_extent:  5 ms
2. with estimated_extent:  4 ms

Huge difference, isn't it?  I would recommend to consider at least a 
possibility to have an alternative for selecting estimated extents. I think 
that the main drawback is that estimated extents are not always right, but 
OpenJUMP is probably checking them just for making a decision if queries 2 and 
3 are made at all. With my data it is wasting 24 seconds for doing a query 
which could sometimes lead to a saving of about 0.2 seconds.

-Jukka Rahkonen-



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Lähettäjä: Michaël Michaud [michael.mich...@free.fr]
Lähetetty: 29. lokakuuta 2011 20:57
Vastaanottaja: jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Aihe: Re: [JPP-Devel] Add feature count limit to dynamic PostGIS layers

Hi Jukka,

There is a ticket
https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=1944638&group_id=118054&atid=679909

and a mail
https://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=6B1D057DB7670E4CA686E2A33445D49F3CD2FF%40SRVEXCHANGE2003.agenzia.dom&forum_name=jump-pilot-devel

from you about huge postgis table management in OpenJUMP

This is only partly resolved with the maxFeature parameter.
Would you check if the use of  find_extent( 'table', 'geom' ) is still a
problem ?
I think this is used to check if the remote table intersects the view,
but I'm not sure.

Michaël

Le 29/10/2011 16:46, Rahkonen Jukka a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> Works fine for me.  Also by saving the Max Features into project file and 
> opening the project. This computer has  Windows Vista 32-bit, jre 1.7.0 and 
> PostgreSQL 8.3 with PostGIS 1.5.  I tested only with the OJ native PostGIS 
> connector.
>
> -Jukka Rahkonen-
>
> Michaël Michaud wrote:
>
>> Hi Jukka, all,
>> The maxFeature parameter should be available from NB (svn 2500).
> Now, addDatastore plugin should also be able to preserve z values.
>
>> Please, test and report any problem,
>> I did not test anything else than PostGIS Driver.
>> Would be useful to test other plugins.
> Michaël
>
> Le 11/10/2011 22:59, Rahkonen Jukka a écrit :
>> Hi,
>>
>> I would say that the limit should be per query.  General option for 
>> everything or even per connection is too course.  Points are not as heavy as 
>> polygons, features with few attributes easier than those loaded with 
>> attributes.  Even using the WHERE filter for the same database table can 
>> make difference.  Short and simple ditches may come from the same waterway 
>> table than bir rivers.  Perhaps it could be just one more selection in Data 
>> Store Layer dialogue. Now we have Connection; Dataset; Geometry; Where and 
>> the new one could be Limit:
>> Limit is a PostGIS word but officially we do not have other data store 
>> drivers which integrates with the native PostGIS one. I know one exception: 
>> SIS Oracle driver makes a new Data Store and Oracle is using "WHERE 
>> rownum<x" instead of "limit x".  Therefore users of SIS db plugin might 
>> wonder why limit does not work. Documentation should help in this situation 
>> if there is nobody to fix the SIS plugin.
>>
>> -Jukka-
>>
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> Lähettäjä: Michaël Michaud [michael.mich...@free.fr]
>> Lähetetty: 11. lokakuuta 2011 22:41
>> Vastaanottaja: jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
>> Aihe: Re: [JPP-Devel] Add feature count limit to dynamic PostGIS layers
>>
>> Hi Jukka,
>>
>>> What do you think, would it be too dangerous to add a possibility to set a 
>>> feature count limit for PostGIS datastore layers? I know I can set scale 
>>> limit for the layer but if I have zoomed to show the whole country when 
>>> adding some layer with millions of features into OpenJUMP is starts to read 
>>> the whole PostGIS table and chokes before it is possible to set the scale 
>>> limit.
>> Interesting,
>>> What is dangerous is that user would not always have all the data from the 
>>> PostGIS layer on the visible map. Perhaps there should be a red light 
>>> burning and warning the user that there is a count limit set for the layer? 
>>> Even better if the light burns only if the feature limit has been reached. 
>>> Technically it should not be difficult to set the feature count, just to 
>>> add "limit [max_features]" to all the SQL queries if the parameter is set.
>> Where do you thing the parameter would have to be set : general option
>> (option panel), per connection, or per query ?
>> About the danger of not having all the data in the visible layer, I
>> think the dynamic datastore management is already dangerous.
>> Running a process against a layer will make you feel you 're running it
>> against the whole postgis table, but instead, you will run it against
>> the visible part of the table only.
>> That said, red light would be a plus for the use case you are describing.
>>
>> Michaël
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