On 13.10.2011 21:52, G. Allegri wrote:
> I appreciate really much your efforts, and I've just seen the clenup to the 
> wiki.
> I just add a clarification about my hint on plugin naming. Looking the 
> folders under the Files [1] pasge can be confusing, and moreover the various 
> plugins don't follow a shared naming convention: someone has the Plugin 
> suffix, someone as the p prefix, etc. Maybe estabilishing a common naming 
> approach (which could be reflected in the respective folders too) could help 
> and would give a better "estethical effect" ;)

how about moving alle plugins into 

OpenJUMP_Plugins, retiring the prefix 'P_' for subfolders.

ede

> 
> giovanni
> 
> [1] http://sourceforge.net/projects/jump-pilot/files/
> 
> 2011/10/13 Stefan Steiniger <sst...@geo.uzh.ch <mailto:sst...@geo.uzh.ch>>
> 
>     Hi Giovani,
> 
>     I am really glad that you wrote more - we need this new perspectives.
>     I hope we can change things there soonish.
> 
>     on the formats, there was a section on the wiki page [1]
> 
>     Now the sad news with respect to projection: OpenJUMP doesn't care about
>     it natively. However we have a plugin by Ede that allows to transform
>     (vector) data. [2]
> 
>     thanks again
>     stefan
> 
>     [1]
>     
> http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/jump-pilot/index.php?title=Import_Export_File
>     [2]
>     
> http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/jump-pilot/index.php?title=Plugins_for_OpenJUMP#VIII_-_Coordinate_Transformation_PlugIn
> 
> 
>     Am 13.10.11 00 <tel:13.10.11%2000>:56, schrieb G. Allegri:
>     > Hi Stefan, hi Michael,
>     > I admit I missed the following wiki page [1]. I'm not an expert with
>     > build systems, that's why I hope they "just work", without having to
>     > tweak them too much to have the work done :)
>     > I have abandoned Gvsig for this reason: a build structure too complex
>     > for me! I often fallback to set up my Eclipse projects manually, and I
>     > was surprised seeing how easy it was for OJ.
>     >
>     > Anyway, I'm evaulating it as a groundbase for some tests and
>     > (eventually) development. Having to deploy it to my clients, I need to
>     > evaluate the overall OJ environment. In this process, the naming
>     > (especially for plugins) puzzled me a bit... and I wasn't able to know
>     > what I would have found in the box (which extension, which plugins,
>     > etc.), both after a maven build, an ant build, or inside the
>     > downloadable builds. That's all.
>     >
>     > The second point is a FAQ. There are common questions that a GIS user
>     > would ask himself the first time he faces a new GIS sw, eg. what formats
>     > OJ can manage (read/write), if/how projections are managed, etc.
>     >
>     > Have a good day!
>     > giovanni
>     >
>     > [1]
>     > 
> http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/jump-pilot/index.php?title=Developing_with_OpenJUMP
>     >
>     > 2011/10/13 Stefan Steiniger <sst...@geo.uzh.ch 
> <mailto:sst...@geo.uzh.ch> <mailto:sst...@geo.uzh.ch 
> <mailto:sst...@geo.uzh.ch>>>
>     >
>     >     Hi Giovanni,
>     >
>     >     thanks for your input - its appreciated a  lot, as we rarely get
>     >     feedback by others and we are willing to change things.
>     >     However, I have two questions:
>     >     i ) Did you look at the Wiki - which is our main doc.
>     >     ii)  Do you have suggestion where on the wiki or webpage we should
>     >     answer to the two points that you gave below.
>     >
>     >     and yes - some of what Michael wrote probably should be put on the 
> wiki
>     >
>     >     stefan
>     >
>     >     PS: yes indeed, Ede does a great job in improving our maven build.
>     >     We did set up Maven because our "inbetween" PostGIS expert was
>     >     needing it (i.e. he did set that up) and the we used it for the NBs
>     >     I think.
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >     On 12/10/2011 3:07 PM, G. Allegri wrote:
>     >>     Thanks Michaël for the clear reply.
>     >>     I appreciate very much your precious work on OJ, but my impression
>     >>     (coming from other OS projects) is that OJ misses a coherent
>     >>     naming and code structure. I feel that having a cleaner model
>     >>     would help very much potential developers and power users.
>     >>     I think that a maven build system, with various profiles, should
>     >>     automate the most possible, otherwise it can be very confusing
>     >>     where to pick the required libs, extensions, etc. Anyway, I know
>     >>     that it isn't an easy task.
>     >>     The other way could be to set up a clear documentation (even a
>     >>     single page) where the actual structure(s) are explained:
>     >>
>     >>      - what is a user/developer expected to find in the X build
>     >>      - the relation between builds and SVN branches/tags/trunk
>     >>
>     >>     At least a common naming should be found to title downloadable
>     >>     builds, and maven build profiles.
>     >>     Another hint: find a coherent naming for plugins.
>     >>     I know you're working on this. They're not critics but hints.
>     >>     They're my two cents after having browsed the various Sourceforge
>     >>     pages and SVN for some days ;)
>     >>
>     >>     giovanni
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>     2011/10/12 Michaël Michaud <michael.mich...@free.fr 
> <mailto:michael.mich...@free.fr>
>     >>     <mailto:michael.mich...@free.fr <mailto:michael.mich...@free.fr>>>
>     >>
>     >>         Hi Giovanni,
>     >>
>     >>         -s refers to a special Sextante edition. Stefan has created
>     >>         this edition one or two years ago including OpenJUMP,
>     >>         Sextante, and many other plugins around there.
>     >>
>     >>         I kept this formule for 1.4.1 and 1.4.2 version (1.4.1-s and
>     >>         1.4.2-s are available in
>     >>         https://sourceforge.net/projects/jump-pilot/files/OpenJUMP/),
>     >>         even if I changed significantly the list of included plugins.
>     >>
>     >>         Recently, we had a discussion about ecw plugin distribution
>     >>         and decided that it will be included in the -s version, and
>     >>         Ede suggested to change the name of this version from -s to
>     >>         something else (Stefan has plenty of ideas, and the extension
>     >>         name, maybe PLUS to have something explicit in the build
>     >>         system has still to be choosen).
>     >>
>     >>         Currently, included plugins are quite heterogeneous, and many
>     >>         of them are just available as is, with their source, on my
>     >>         website or on cadplan website.
>     >>         I put one of my plugin on OJ svn (graph toolbox), but others
>     >>         are still not and none of them are on maven repository.
>     >>
>     >>         Is it important to have PLUS version plugins centralised or
>     >>         mavenized for you ?
>     >>
>     >>         Michaël
>     >>
>     >>         Le 12/10/2011 22:07, G. Allegri a écrit :
>     >>>         I've just started following this mailing list and studying OJ
>     >>>         build system.
>     >>>         AFAIK you're setting up a maven to distinguish a CORE and
>     >>>         PLUS build. Is the PLUS build supposed to include all the
>     >>>         extension listed by Michaël? Sextante, graph-toolbox, etc. I
>     >>>         mean, will they refer to maven public repositories, or will
>     >>>         be put inside the OJ svn?
>     >>>
>     >>>         A second question. I see you're talking about an "-s"
>     >>>         edition. Is it already available? Does it correspond to the
>     >>>         PLUS version?
>     >>>
>     >>>         I will apreciate very much some clarification.
>     >>>         Thanks,
>     >>>         giovanni
>     >>>
>     >>>         2011/10/12 Michaël Michaud <michael.mich...@free.fr 
> <mailto:michael.mich...@free.fr>
>     >>>         <mailto:michael.mich...@free.fr 
> <mailto:michael.mich...@free.fr>>>
>     >>>
>     >>>             Hi Ede,
>     >>>
>     >>>             here is a list of extensions, dependencies and source
>     >>>             location for -s
>     >>>             (or whatever) OpenJUMP version.
>     >>>
>     >>>             Not complete, sorry, but a good start.
>     >>>             I think Sextante 0.6 has been put as is in the distro,
>     >>>             and sextante
>     >>>             bindings has been modified by Peppe (small modification
>     >>>             to look for
>     >>>             Sextante in a specific directory if I'm correct), not
>     >>>             sure if I compiled
>     >>>             it myself.
>     >>>
>     >>>             aggregation-0.2.4
>     >>>                 author : michaël
>     >>>                 jar : included in openjump-1.4.2-s
>     >>>                 src : zipped on
>     >>>             http://geo.michaelm.free.fr/OpenJUMP/resources/
>     >>>                 i18n : included in jar
>     >>>
>     >>>             bsheditor4jump-0.2.1.jar
>     >>>                 author : michaël (it uses also old jedit code)
>     >>>                 jar : included in openjump-1.4.2-s
>     >>>                 src : version 0.2.0 zipped on
>     >>>             http://geo.michaelm.free.fr/OpenJUMP/resources/ : TO BE
>     >>>             UPDATED
>     >>>                 i18n : included in jar
>     >>>                 dependance : buoy.jar
>     >>>
>     >>>             driver-dxf-0.7.3.jar
>     >>>                 author : michaël
>     >>>                 jar : included in openjump-1.4.2-s
>     >>>                 src : version 0.2.0 zipped on
>     >>>             http://geo.michaelm.free.fr/OpenJUMP/resources/drivers
>     >>>
>     >>>             graph-toolbox-0.1.2.jar
>     >>>                 author : michaël
>     >>>                 jar : included in openjump-1.4.2-s
>     >>>                 src : managed in JPP svn
>     >>>                 i18n : included in jar
>     >>>                 depends on jump-jgrapht-0.4.jar and jgrapht-jdk1.6.jar
>     >>>                     jump-jgrapht-0.4.jar src : version
>     >>>             http://geo.michaelm.free.fr/OpenJUMP/resources/
>     >>>                     jgrapht-jdk1.6.jar src :
>     >>>             http://jgrapht.sourceforge.net/
>     >>>
>     >>>             JumpChart.jar and
>     >>>             jumpPrinter.jar and
>     >>>             VertexSymbols.jar
>     >>>                 author : cadplan
>     >>>                 jar : included in openjump-1.4.2-s
>     >>>                 sources available on http://www.cadplan.com.au/
>     >>>                 depends also on iText-2.1.5.jar
>     >>>
>     >>>             PirolCsv.jar
>     >>>                 author :
>     >>>             
> http://www.pirol.hs-osnabrueck.de/jump-download.html?&no_cache=1 
> <http://www.pirol.hs-osnabrueck.de/jump-download.html?&no_cache=1>
>     >>>             
> <http://www.pirol.hs-osnabrueck.de/jump-download.html?&no_cache=1 
> <http://www.pirol.hs-osnabrueck.de/jump-download.html?&no_cache=1>>
>     >>>                 jar : included in openjump-1.4.2-s
>     >>>                 sources : included in the jar
>     >>>                 depends on pbaseClasses.jar (sources included)
>     >>>
>     >>>             PostGISPlugIn-1.4.2alpha.jar
>     >>>                 authors : many
>     >>>                 jar : included in openjump-1.4.2-s
>     >>>                 sources : managed in JPP svn
>     >>>
>     >>>             Sextante binding-0.6.1.jar
>     >>>                 author : Victor Olaya (small adaptation from Giuseppe)
>     >>>                 jar : included in openjump-1.4.2-s
>     >>>                 sources : included in jar
>     >>>
>     >>>             TableLayout-bin-jdk1.5-2007-04-21.jar
>     >>>                 cannot remember which plugin depends on it
>     >>>
>     >>>             topology-0.3.jar
>     >>>                 author : michaël
>     >>>                 jar : included in openjump-1.4.2-s
>     >>>                 src : zipped on
>     >>>             http://geo.michaelm.free.fr/OpenJUMP/resources/
>     >>>                 i18n : included in jar
>     >>>
>     >>>             txt-driver-0.3.0.jar
>     >>>                 author : michaël
>     >>>                 jar : included in openjump-1.4.2-s
>     >>>                 src : zipped on
>     >>>             http://geo.michaelm.free.fr/OpenJUMP/resources/
>     >>>                 i18n : included in jar
>     >>>
>     >>>             x-bean-2.2.0.jar
>     >>>                 cannot remember which plugin depends on it
>     >>>
>     >>>             sextante directory
>     >>>                 author : Victor Olaya
>     >>>                 jar : 34 jars included in the directory
>     >>>                 src : http://sextante.forge.osor.eu/contact.html
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>>             Le 12/10/2011 20:49, edgar.sol...@web.de 
> <mailto:edgar.sol...@web.de>
>     >>>             <mailto:edgar.sol...@web.de <mailto:edgar.sol...@web.de>> 
> a écrit :
>     >>>             > michael,
>     >>>             >
>     >>>             > could you please shortly summarize the incuded
>     >>>             extensions and the locations of distro zips or their
>     >>>             sources you use to compile sextante edition? i'd like to
>     >>>             complete the plus snapshot definition.
>     >>>             >
>     >>>             > thanks ede
>     >>>             >
>     >>>             >
>     >>>             
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