Hi Alberto,
thanks for the new proposal. We had a contact some days ago about this future 
development of Adbtoolbox. I think it is important to share to other OJ people 
my opinion about a possible collaboration between AdbToolbox and Openjump

AdbToolbox Tools
In my experience with previous versions of  AdbToolbox , it was possible to use 
at least 90% of the its tools but only withh a Windows-based version od 
Openjump. 
It is a nice news that a part of these tools were ported from fortran to java: 
Linux and MacOSX users will take benefits of it! 
Having these tools as separate download for OJ user would be very interesting

Internazionalization: 
Since AdbToolbox and Openjump shares basically the same structure I think it is 
not important to translate the whole software but only the plugin which can be 
used with OJ: this will save a lot of job, of coarse.
As Italian (and user of AdbToolbox) I can give a help for it.

Raster support:
I found some interesting new features of the Adbtoolbox new raster plugin
* possibility to open new raster file format (ASCII and ESRI grids, etc) 
* It has a  has a table color tool whith some defind color tables (slope, etc) 
and the possibility to define personal tables. Raster grid file are shown with 
colors (and not with the gray range of OJ Pirol/Sextante raster tool)
* there is a a raster info tool which reads the value of the raster  under the 
cursor on workbench 
I would like to see these capabilities ported to original OJ Pirol/Sextante 
Raster tool which can be used with Sextante. 
As far as I understood the two raster tools shares many libraries (except the 
depency of Adbtoolbox 1.5 one to dll libraries)
"Merging" the two plugins will probabily make life easier for users: actualy in 
"Open file" menu there are two raster choice for OJ and three in AdbToolbox

Using other raster format then ESRI floating point with AdbToolbox tools. 
This would be a next step.  Maybe useful for many users. On the other hand, 
seeing how many types of raster file format are in the World.... I am quite 
happy to know how to use gdal (and understand why it was developed...).


Peppe
--- Ven 5/2/10, Alberto De Luca <i...@geomaticaeambiente.it> ha scritto:

Da: Alberto De Luca <i...@geomaticaeambiente.it>
Oggetto: [JPP-Devel] AdB-ToolBox: a word about future developments
A: jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Data: Venerdì 5 febbraio 2010, 12:21

Hello everyone.

As a member of the team who has been working on AdB-ToolBox in the last 
months, I'd like to address a couple of issues regarding its future 
developments: internationalization, raster management and platform 
independence. By the way, AdB-ToolBox is a piece of software, part of 
the JUMP family, whose development was originally funded by the Italian 
ministry for the environment. Their goal was to expand OpenJUMP 
features, by adding raster handling capabilities and tools specialized 
for hydrological and geomorphological analysis.

First of all: internationalization. We are aware that the Italian-only 
interface of AdB-ToolBox has been annoying for some of you. 
Unfortunately, due to limited resources, we couldn't afford to add 
international support in the first instance. Nevertheless, we plan to 
translate interfaces to English in the near future.

Second: raster management. AdB-ToolBox can open and visualize several 
raster formats (ASCII grid, ESRI grid, ESRI floating point grid), but 
the various plug ins only accept the ESRI floating point grid as their 
input (and output) format. This was quite convenient from a developer's 
perspective, but not as good from a user's perspective. Ideally, every 
plug in needing a raster layer among its inputs, should be able to use 
every raster format that OJ can open and visualize. In other terms, the 
reading capability should be part of OJ only and, once opened, a raster 
should be passed to the plug ins as an object (just like now we can pass 
an instance of the Layer class). Presently, every plug in that needs a 
raster as an input, has to reload it from scratch, regardless the raster 
being already loaded in AdB. This is a limit of the current 
implementation of the class managing the raster layers: once the raster 
is loaded, and "translated" into an RGB image to be shown in AdB, it 
loses the actual pixel data information (it's just an RGB image). We 
think that a step forward would be to load the raster values into an 
array to be kept in memory, whose values could be used by any plug in or 
tool that needs them.
In any case, raster support cannot be an independent plug in, but must 
be made part of OJ, so that raster layers can be managed inside projects 
and queried with the standard "info tool".

Third: platform independence. Many of the AdB-ToolBox plug ins still 
need DLLs. But their number is decreasing over time, as we gradually 
port parts of software from Fortran to Java. Presently (AdB-ToolBox 
version 1.6), there are already 2 (out of 5) AdB-ToolBox extensions that 
are DLL-free, one dedicated to topographic analyses (contour lines and 
sections extraction...) and the other including some raster tools (a 
raster calculator, zonal statistics, and many others). We plan to keep 
porting code to Java, but some plug ins (the ones that are too specific 
or too complex) will be left out, due to resources limitations.

Now, I think the raster management issue is probably the one needing 
more attention, planning, discussion, and collaboration!

Thanks for your your interest in AdB-ToolBox
Alberto

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