One quick comment - Refractions has essentially no code in the JUMP codebase. So you don't need to clear anything with them.
Martin Sunburned Surveyor wrote: > I just had to respond to some comments in this e-mail. :] (I do > appreciate you prodding us along on this issue David.) > > You wrote: "I notice that your development community is very busy and > perhaps over committed. May I suggest that approaching only the > developer crowd may return positive support in general but a lack of > ability to administer the proces?" > > I think you are correct in this statement. > > You wrote: "If you think that that are more users than developers > (hopefuly) then it it not make more sense that the user community can > contributed to this process more than the developers can. Often users > want to contribute to Open Source projects but are not commited to > producing code or maintaining documentation." > > This is an excellent suggestion. I will post an inquiry on the JUMP users > list. > > You wrote: "Since they have a version of jump, would it not make good > sense to work with Degree to get the core of deeJump (mainly Jump > Pilot) into OSGEO." > > I could ask the deegree folks about this. However, they are likely > over committed as we are. > > You wrote: "I saw discussion of Vivid Solutions, but what about Degree > and what about Refractions (as they also developed the initial JUMP)" > > I don't know if you are talking about consolidating our web presence, > or something else. I contacted Vivid Solutions as a first step. They > are going to discuss it internally and respond to me in a few days. I > don't think Refractions will be a problem, but I'll have to talk to > Jody Garnett about it. I thought I would get a response from Vivid > Solutions first. > > You wrote: "If you are an open community with transparent processes > then there should not be any negative changes." > > This is a good description of our community. > > You wrote: "We all know of Projects that call themselves open source > but you could never contribute code or influence the direction of the > project because the project is run as a closed source project that > gives away its code but never allows contributions because it is held > captive by a few key players. A closed club with free source code that > dies when it forks." > > This isn't OpenJUMP. In fact, it sounds like a good description of the > original OpenJUMP. The reality is that we forked the code because > Vivid Solutions maintained a choke hold, at least at the time, and > JUMP has endured a slow death. > > The Sunburned Surveyor > > On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 5:39 AM, Sampson, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Hey folks, >> >> Thought I'd pop back in after my requested hiatus. >> >> I notice that your development community is very busy and perhaps over >> committed. May I suggest that approaching only the developer crowd may >> return positive support in general but a lack of ability to administer the >> proces? When we went thought the simmilar process in the GRASS community we >> relied mainly on the user community with representation from from the >> developers. If you think that that are more users than developers (hopefuly) >> then it it not make more sense that the user community can contributed to >> this process more than the developers can. Often users want to contribute to >> Open Source projects but are not commited to producing code or maintaining >> documentation. This would be an opportunity for users to have a lasting >> impact on JP and leave a legacy. Remember that we are all about an open >> community (or at least that is what I understand Open Source to be), so why >> close out the users in this process? >> >> Second, I am sure you are aware of Degree entering OSGEO incubation… >> http://www.osgeo.org/node/723 >> >> Since they have a version of jump, would it not make good sense to work with >> Degree to get the core of deeJump (mainly Jump Pilot) into OSGEO. >> >> I saw discussion of Vivid Solutions, but what about Degree and what about >> Refractions (as they also developed the initial JUMP >> http://www.jump-project.org/project.php?PID=JUMP&SID=CRED) >> >> My final thought is to address some of the concernes that joining OSGEO will >> change how you operate. If you are an open community with transparent >> processes then there should not be any negative changes. Some positive >> changes might come out that will strengthen the project though. On the other >> hand if JUMP calls itself an open source project but does not realy play the >> open source game, then the reservations might be well founded as OSGEO would >> only want to adopt transparent and open projects. >> >> We all know of Projects that call themselves open source but you could never >> contribute code or influence the direction of the project because the >> project is run as a closed source project that gives away its code but never >> allows contributions because it is held captive by a few key players. A >> closed club with free source code that dies when it forks. Again, OSGEO >> wants to avoid associating with such projects. Their processes are in place >> to ensure that contributors are protected and users can exercise their >> rights under the license. >> >> Some thoughts. >> >> Cheers >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. >> It's the best place to buy or sell services for >> just about anything Open Source. >> http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php >> _______________________________________________ >> Jump-pilot-devel mailing list >> Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel >> >> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. > It's the best place to buy or sell services for > just about anything Open Source. > http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php > _______________________________________________ > Jump-pilot-devel mailing list > Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel > > -- Martin Davis Senior Technical Architect Refractions Research, Inc. 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