Hello Peppe,

On Apr 3, 2008, at 5:44 AM, Giuseppe Aruta wrote:

Hi Eric,
and congratulation for your detailed page. I saw that you plan to develop your page as a small tutorial for MacOX OpenJUMP user.

well, just trying to document some user experience with OJ, as it is a good tool, but very under-exposed... uDig and QGIS are getting all the spotlight. I wish I had known about some of it's features way back when, and I would have started using it sooner. But because it's obscure and seemed inactive(low activity), I simply never took the time to use and abuse/enjoy. But all-in-all it's a great effort, and with some basic GUI clean-up and some bug-stomping, and some good download site postings/promotions, could easily get a few hundred active users in a short period of time.

I am interested in knowing what would be required to move this into Eclipse(like uDig)... any idea as it relates to man hours?

There are some part which probabily even Linix or Windows user would take some benefits. I worked on User Guide: http://openjump.org/wiki/show/Index or List of Function page http://openjump.org/wiki/show/OpenJUMP+List+of+Functions together with SS untill last winter, but probabily they need some upgrade for the Up-to-come OpenJUMP 1.3
You are welcome to give your contribute adding/correcting these pages.

Great! I'll take a look, and of course I'll edit/add as time/energy permits.

For instance, the idea of videos (MOV) tutorials to explain tools is interesting, we could add a link to your video at the "Editing Toolbox" page http://openjump.org/wiki/show/Editing+Toolbox

Is there any way these videos could be stored directly onto the OpenJump server? Otherwise, over time, as domains get shuffled around from server to server, links get broken, etc. Currently I have the photos up at flickr.com, and the movies up on my own domain/server, but they should be on the OJ server imo.

I have another 40 videos I made yesterday and today, I just need to upload them and link them. However, many of these videos show bugs and errors, instead of instruction/example. I figured that would help the contributing programmers get an idea of the problems.

But first I am really interested in learning from the fathers of this project, where it's going. I see uDig and QGIS with pretty clear plans of where they are going, but have not yet grasped that from OpenJump as of yet(hint).

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Regarding the Plugin test. There are some plugin which probabily don't work even with Windows/Linux version of OpenJUMP (for instance the Jython plugin). Some of them probabily were already added in OJ during time, other probabily had a short life since there was no interest/no need to go on upgrading to newer versions of JUMP/ OpenJUMP.

Also, I'd be willing to setup a subversion repository with a trac front end to manage plug-ins/versioning, so we can get that situation somewhat organized. or, just create a table that shows compatibility.

Again, I am very interested to know the current state of the core of OJ(lets say compared to uDig or QGIS, and how it could take advantage of geotools, geoserver, openlayers, etc.), and where everyone here thinks OJ is going, or where they want to take it. As I've said before, it seems like such a diamond in the rough, and I wonder why It has just sort of lingered as it has(again, i am not familiar with all it's history, or all those involved).

Regards,

Eric


A m onth ago I planned to do a similar job like yours for Windows. By the time I will have time I will do it so we can compare and see what's left behind!

Regards

Peppe

Michaël Michaud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto:
Hi Eric,

Thanks for all the tests and documentation.

I'm the author of some of the plugins you tested (results on the wiki
page), and have some remarks/questions about those which do not work :

BshEditor4Jump-0.1.1-2006-04-20.zip : did you extract the jar from the
zip and put it in the ext folder. That is how it is supposed to work. It is a useful plugin, and I would be pleased if it could work also on mac.

Jump-spim-0.1.0 : this is a gadget plugin related to scripting. I did it
before we integrated BeanTools in OpenJUMP distribution. Not very
important, just a curiosity.

mifmid-driver-0.4.0.jar : replaced by 0.4.1 that you tested successfully
(I have to remove 0.4.0 from my site)

mmpatch1.1.2 : not a plugin but a patch which modifies jump's core in
some ways. Not maintained. Only interesting if the community decided to
modify some of jump core features (it adds new attribute types like
boolean and decimal but has never been tested with all drivers).

plugin-oj-gcdriver and plugin-oj-mmdriver : it is just the zip
containing the plugins, the sources and the documentation. It should not
be used as a plugin. It appears that you tested the plugins themself
successfully ;-)

qa-0.1.jar : it is a recent plugin issued from Jump Conflation Suite and
I made it available on the sourceforge JPP site. I'm interested in
knowing more about what is wrong with it (nothing loaded or error
message happening at execution time ?)

Thanks

Michaël


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