Larry, Please see my comments below.
Larry wrote: "Scale labels with the zoom level is a basic Label Style feature of JUMP. I didn't write it or change it." I figured that might be the case. I wasn't sure what part of the label style had been modified. My apologies for comments that didn't apply to your work. Larry wrote: "This is the way it works for me, but again not my code." I'll take a look at my text height again. I may have been using a value that was way to big since I think I loaded data in lat/long decimal degrees. Larry wrote: "Again, not something I changed, but this is probably understood by most." Yup. I guess surveyors are just a little pickier about our angle format. Perhaps I will add a tooltip to the code if I have time. Larry wrote: "Yes, I'm not sure which way is right. Periods are not usually put in dialog labels." I don't use a period with Title Case, but use a period if only the first word in the phrase is capitalized. Others might have a different style. I was just pointing out the lack of consistency in this case. But it is a very minor thing. Larry wrote: "As opposed to???" Well, I guess if the labels don't scale the halo shouldn't either. But I realize after reading your above comments that I probably had this backwards, so please ignore this comment. Larry wrote: "I'm not sure why anyone would want those options. I added the Left, Center, and Right Alignment so that I could get "normal" legend text." It's a CAD user thing I guess. I'm just used to making a distinction between the "justification/alignment" of a label and the anchor point. I don't expexct the anchor point to change when the alignment changes. But, like I said, this may be a CAD user thing. Larry wrote: "I didn't change JUMP's algorithm. It picks the longest segment." I thought it was picking the midpoint of the longest segment. Thank you for confirming this. Larry wrote: "Why wouldn't they already?" I dunno. Maybe they do. I'll ahve to try them. Larry wrote: "Hmm, hopefully you meant "not a degradation"." That is what I meant. Thank you for responding to my comments. It looks like most of them didn't apply. The Sunburned Surveyor On 8/24/07, Larry Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi SS, > > See my comments below. > > regards, > Larry > > On 8/24/07, Sunburned Surveyor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Larry, > > > > I was able to test out your new label style for a few minutes today on > > my lunch break. Here is the promised feedback: > > > > [1] I'm a little confused about how the "Scale labels with the zoom > > level." check box works. It seems like the labels DID scale with the > > viewport properly when this box WAS NOT checked. However, when the box > > was checked my labels got really huge. I may not understand how this > > check box is supposed to work, but let me explain what I expected as a > > dumb user: > > > Scale labels with the zoom level is a basic Label Style feature of > JUMP. I didn't write it or change it. > > - When the cehck box IS NOT checked I expect that my labels will > > remain at a constant height. For example, if I set the "Height" field > > to 20 units, I expect the labels to remain at 20 units no matter what > > the zoom level. > > > This is the way it works for me, but again not my code. > > > - When the check box IS checked I expect the labels to behave as they > > currently behave when the box IS not checked. I hope this makes sense. > nope. > > [2] The Angle Attribute specifies that the input angle be in degrees, > > but it doesn't specify if this should be decimal degrees (89.3655520) > > or in degree-minutes-seconds (89-52-36). [Note: This may be a question > > that only a surveyor would ask.] I assume the angle is supposed to be > > in decimal degrees. Perhaps we could clarify this in a tool tip. > Again, not something I changed, but this is probably understood by most. > > [3] The label for the halo check box doesn't end with a period. To be > > consistent with the scale check box it should end with a period. (I'm > > not trying to nit-pick. This is just a consistency thing.) :] > Yes, I'm not sure which way is right. Periods are not usually put in > dialog labels. > > [4] It appears that the halo also scales with the labels, even when > > the scale check box is not checked. > As opposed to??? > > [5] It appears that choosing the "Center" alignment option centers the > > label over the midpoint of a segment, while choosing "Right" right > > justifies the label over the right endpoint of a line segment, and > > choosing "Left" left justifies the label over the left endpoint of the > > line segment. It would make more sense to me if there was a > > distinction between "Justification" and or "Alignment" and the anchor > > point. For example, I thought when I chose "Left" the label would be > > left justified over the midpoint of the line segment, not left > > justified over the left end point of the line segment. I would change > > this by allowing a user to select the justification or alignment and > > the anchor point. > I'm not sure why anyone would want those options. I added the Left, > Center, and Right Alignment so that I could get "normal" legend text. > > Now I have a couple of questions: > > > > [1] How did you choose the anchor point for a MultiLineString? Is it > > just the midpoint of the overall Linestring, even if this doesn't fall > > at the midpoint of a individual segment contained in the LineString? > I didn't change JUMP's algorithm. It picks the longest segment. > > [2] Is there any plans to support export of these labels to SVG? > Why wouldn't they already? > > You've done some really good work on this Style. I am very please with > > the results and my comments are meant as a degredation of your work. > Hmm, hopefully you meant "not a degradation". > > The Sunburned Surveyor > > > > > > On 8/23/07, Geoffrey G Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Dear Stefan > > > > > > I sort of take the view that plugins are a way of testing ideas before > > > they are committed to the core. This was partially behind my idea to > > > run the small survey -(which btw has only had 20 or so responses) that > > > might identify widely used/required functionality. > > > > > > Personally I would prefer not to become a core developer, but I am > > > prepared to work with someone who is to help support anything that I > > > have implemented as a plugin migrating into the core. > > > > > > Geoff > > > > > > Stefan Steiniger wrote: > > > > Hei Geoff, > > > > > > > > at some point we definitevly need to port your adhancements to the core. > > > > But up to now I was not sure if you want that (for maintenance reasons) > > > > > > > > stefan > > > > > > > > Larry Becker schrieb: > > > > > > > >> Hi Geoff, > > > >> > > > >> I've played around with offset distance and HTML formatting on > > > >> labels too. Perhaps we'll get there. I am changing the code base a > > > >> little at a time to judge the response and keep backward compatibility > > > >> with project files. > > > >> > > > >> regards, > > > >> Larry Becker > > > >> > > > >> On 8/23/07, Geoffrey G Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> Dear Larry > > > >>> > > > >>> I am pleased to see an interest in improving the label style. In my > > > >>> vertexsymbol plugin I have created an additional label option that > > > >>> has a > > > >>> range of formatting options, like centre, and 8 compass positions from > > > >>> the vertex. It is also possible to set the offset distance (in my > > > >>> case > > > >>> to match the vertex symbol size, or manually). I have also provided > > > >>> an > > > >>> option to allow (HTML) formatted text to make String type labels more > > > >>> interesting. > > > >>> > > > >>> --- These are just thoughts for the built-in label style. It would > > > >>> be > > > >>> good to see these type of capabilities available in the core. > > > >>> > > > >>> Geoff > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> Larry Becker wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>>> I'm going to be making some major improvements to the Label Style. > > > >>>> Is > > > >>>> anyone else working in this area? > > > >>>> > > > >>>> The improvements will be: > > > >>>> > > > >>>> 1. Support for halo text. A halo is a surrounding outline in a > > > >>>> contrasting color to improve readability when using a mixed dark and > > > >>>> light background such as raster images. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> 2. Support for hiding text below a specified scale. This makes it > > > >>>> possible to stop text from rendering when zoomed out too far to > > > >>>> actually read, but still display the geometry. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> 3. Support for horizontal alignment of text. (Left, Center, and > > > >>>> Right justify) > > > >>>> > > > >>>> regards, > > > >>>> Larry Becker > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>> -- > > > >>> Dr Geoffrey G Roy > > > >>> Cadplan > > > >>> 129 Gloster Street, Subiaco WA 6008 > > > >>> Tel: (08) 9381 4870 Fax: (08) 9382 4459 > > > >>> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >>> http://www.cadplan.com.au > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >>> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > > > >>> Still grepping through log files to find problems? 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