Hi,

I think that the alternatives for wavelet based compression of geospatial 
imagery are MrSID, ECW and JPEG2000. I wouldn't be very afraid of the submarine 
patents, JPEG2000 has been there a long time already and it is rather widely 
used for geospatial and medical imagery.  Digital cinema will use JPEG2000 as 
well.  I wonder how long those submarine patent holders would wait with their 
claims?
JPEG2000 is fine and extremely flexible format, but just the flexibility makes 
it a bit tricky to use. I have been playing several years with JPEG2000 and I 
have about 3 terabytes JPEG2000 imagery I can use for testing if someone gets 
interested in adding JPEG2000 support to OpenJUMP.
To have something to compary with, www.kakadusoftware.com has free demo 
utilities, including compression/decompression utilities and a fast JPEG2000 
viewer. The viewer is for Windows only because of some platform dependent 
accelaration code, but other utilities work with Unix/Linux/Mac as well. Usage 
examples shipped with demos give also an idea about the flexibility of JPEG2000 
standard :)
I don't know if there are other Open source Jpeg2000 libraries than Jasper. 
Some major commercial ones are made by Aware, Kakadu, Luratech and Pegasus. 
Lizardtech and Ermapper (MrSID and ECW makers) support JPEG2000 as well in 
their SDKs. I do not know the pricing of other SDKs, but I suppose that 
individual non-commercial Kakadu license worth 250 Australian dollars would be 
enough for OpenJUMP. The web page says 'This license is sufficient for the 
development and distribution of JPEG2000 "freeware".'  With ERMapper 
ECW/JPEG2000 the situation may be unclear now because Leica Geosystems bought 
the company.
I would really like to see some day a GIS application supporting image 
streaming with JPIP protocol, which is now an accepted part of JPEG2000 
standard. Kakadu demos include JPIP server as well. If someone gets interested 
I can send a link to my JPIP server that can be accessed with Kakadu viewer, or 
with the IAS viewer by ITT Visual Information solutions 
http://www.ittvis.com/ias/index.asp?

-Jukka Rahkonen-



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> Lähetetty: 17. heinäkuuta 2007 2:24
> Vastaanottaja: List for discussion of JPP development and use.
> Aihe: Re: [JPP-Devel] GeoJP2
> 
> This is interesting. It sounds like the JPEG 2000 committee didn't
> know if there were submarine patents, and I wonder if this was stated
> by the committee as a way to deflect liability.
> 
> Is there any opinion on whether there is a danger of the JPEG 2000
> format being shot down by a patent claim? Is there a good alternative
> to the format?
> 
> The Sunburned Surveyor
> 
> On 7/13/07, Larry Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > See the Wikipedia article on JPEG 2000 for comments on 
> legal issues re: JP2000:
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JPEG_2000#Legal_issues
> >
> > It seems OK, but it pays to be informed.
> >
> > Larry
> >
> >
> > On 7/13/07, Michaël Michaud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Paul Austin a écrit :
> > >
> > > >Has anyone done any work with GeoJP2 in Java or JUMP?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Not that I know, I think it would be a great replacement 
> for ecw and
> > > mrsid which are proprietary formats
> > >
> > > Michaël
> > >
> > > >Paul
> > > >
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