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On 2/16/07, Michaël Michaud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi,

Glad to see you back on this project Erwan, and glad to read Paolo's
propositions because I think they give a good direction, and also glad
to see so many important contributions to OpenJUMP these times.

Michaël

erwan bocher a écrit :

> Hi Guys,
>
> I agree with Paolo. I'm preparing a list of improvement for OpenJUMP.
> Next week, I send you the doc. The SIGLE team will be with you. :-)
>
> R1.
>
> On 2/16/07, * Sunburned Surveyor* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>
>     Paolo,
>
>     This is some awesome feedback. I will try to write a blog post
>     about this and some other comments that I have received in the
>     next couple of days.
>
>     The Sunburned Surveyor
>
>
>
>     On 2/16/07, *P.Rizzi Ag.Mobilità Ambiente* < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>
>         Hi Landon,
>         I read your PDF and found it good, but here follows my idea.
>
>         I think there should exist _no_ different code bases at all,
>         there has to be only _one_ core!!!
>
>         I think all organizations developing JUMP versions would be
>         better served off by sharing efforts
>         into a common project, instead of dissipating resources to
>         mantain different code bases,
>         but they may have a different idea about this.
>
>         Anyway it's important to discover why people started
>         independent cores in the first place!!!
>         .) Was it because the fuctionalities they needed were
>         _impossible_ to implement as plugins???
>         .) Or was it only too _difficult_???
>         .) Or they simply didn't know better???
>
>         To solve the first case and, partially, the second, the common
>         core should be re-engineered
>         so that future functionalities will not be _impossible_ or
>         _difficult_ to implement as plugins.
>         To solve the third case and, partially, the second, better
>         documentation should be available
>         _and_ precise procedures like the ones you outlined.
>
>         Summing up, there are four things I think should be done:
>         1) All special features currently available inside
>         "proprietary" cores must be
>         integrated into the common core
>         2) The common core must be re-engineered so that modifications
>         to it will
>         not be necessary (almost) anymore
>         3) All new functionalities must be implemented _only_ as plugins
>         4) If some modification to the core is _absolutely_ necessary,
>         it has to
>         be implemented directly by whoever needs it directly inside
>         the common core
>
>         Points 1 and 4 needs an agreement by every involved party and
>         it may not be feasible at all.
>         Point 1 and 2 require someone actually working on them, but it
>         will be a one-time work.
>         But the beauty of this is Point 3!!! From then on all
>         functionalities will always be available to every JUMP
version!!!
>
>         Ok, this is what I think, but it's probably impracticable, so
>         I will support whatever you decide.
>
>         My contribution will be the continued development of the
>         Datastore plugin (PostGIS and Oracle).
>         I may also try and look into point 2, at least to solve the
>         I18N question.
>         I think it's very important, to facilitate plugins
>         compatibility, that even if we don't come out
>         with a common core, we ensure that all existing cores support
>         I18N.
>
>
>         Bye
>         Paolo Rizzi
>
>
>
>
>
>              -----Messaggio originale-----
>             *Da:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>             <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>             [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>             <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]*Per
>             conto di *Sunburned Surveyor
>             *Inviato:* mercoledì 14 febbraio 2007 20.57
>             *A:* List for discussion of JPP development and use.
>             *Oggetto:* [JPP-Devel] Collaborative Development Of OpenJUMP
>
>             You can find a post about my suggested procedures for
>             collaborative development of OpenJUMP on my blog:
>
>             http://openjump.blogspot.com/
>
>             The blog contains a link to the PDF file with the
>             suggested procedures. If you are developing a JUMP "brand"
>             or are working on OpenJUMP I encourage you to read it and
>             give me your comments. Please tear into the document. Tell
>             me what you like, and what you don't like. (Just make sure
>             you  tell me why...) Tell me what will work for your
>             development team, and what won't.
>
>             I make a special entreaty to those organizations or
>             companies that are using JUMP, OpenJUMP, or some flavor of
>             the two programs to produce commercial products or
>             services to read the document and become involved in the
>             discussion. I really believe more collaborative
>             development of OpenJUMP is in your best financial interest.
>
>             If we can't get some procedures that are similar in
>             purpose to the ones I described nailed down I will commit
>             to tracking the differences among JUMP, OpenJUMP, and the
>             different JUMP "brands". I will also put some time in to
>             tracking the changes to those code bases. I'm willing to
>             test plug-ins for compatibility with JUMP and OpenJUMP.
>             But I will need cooperating from the different development
>             teams, especially if Stefan leaves us in October.
>
>             The Sunburned Surveyor
>
>             P.S. - Can you guys let me know what JUMP flavors are
>             still active? I'd like to put together some invitations to
>             a new JPP Development Committee, but I've lost track of
>             which projects are still active. (I already have SkyJUMP
>             and Kosmo on my list. What about SIGLE and DeeJUMP? Are
>             they still active? Are there others I should know about?
>
>
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