I have no problem joining the meeting in a "virtual way" as was suggested. I just need the details on how to hook up.
The Sunburned Surveyor P.S. - I think I will continue with the new wiki. I understand the concern about two wikis, but I really do think we need a more organized approach. I appreciate Jon Aquino hosting our wiki, but this new site will give me more control over administrative tasks like spam control and wiki back-ups. On 8/22/06, erwan bocher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Helo, > > I'm back of Corsica (good holidays :-)). I add some comments. > > > > > > first of all, sorry, Sunburned, for not having answered your email yet. > > I'll do so. Meanwhile see my comments below. > > > > Stefan Steiniger wrote: > > > mhm .. a second wiki??? > > > dont know.. but i agree that the old one could have a better design > > > > > This is a good point. Sunburned says he wants to join efforts, but that > > sort of thing is fragmenting the project. Do we really need a 2nd wiki? > > > I think that the wiki of openjump is more than enough. The wiki is clear and > easy to use. It's the best reference for OJ. > > > > > we may call the second one, the "JPP wiki" and make it the main-page of > > > the JPP project.. but not for OJ in general > > > But i think i will still make the major things like FAQ in the original > > > OJ wiki.. since for now it is the most important and vistied Jump > > > web-site i guess => and ukwss: nether touch a running system ;) > > > =========== about merging the different jump projects ... =========== > > > this a difficult task since the projects have different goals: > > > a) deeJump is done by a company (Lat/Lon) and Ugo has not that much time > > > to integrate his improvements into OJ.. It looks also to me that their > > > main target platform is Windows. > > > > > Why do you think our main platform is Windows??? True, we develop as we > > get fundings (like any other SW Develop. company). Unfortunately I don > > not have time off work to dedicate to OJ. One of the things I've done on > > my own private time in the past was the plug-in manager. Sadly, it's > > lying around on my HD. > > > > > => we can't force them to make their things on the OJ CVS and their > > > customers may have different needs than a normal OJ user.. further they > > > do rely on a very stable version > > > > > We do try to wrap our plug-ins in extensions and deliver to the > > community, but I don't have time for that either...Furthermore, the two > > most important changes to OJ base code needed core changes too. Stefan > > was the one who went into all the trouble of porting the point > > symbolizers to OJ. the point is, the changes to OJ are way too fast and > > somewhat chaotic, and I cannot respond as quickly. > > > b) SIGLE simply works on the french version.. and they do focus mainly > > > on Windows users (correct me if i am wrong) > > > i am not that sure about the devel structure and how difficult it is for > > > them to move to our cvs. I would be very glad if they could sign up for > > > an account @ sourceforge. > > > SIGLE has two versions one for linux another for windows (because we use > gdal for read raster files). We opened an area on sourceforge in order to > make available our developments (release and cvs). The site is under > construction. > We make many efforts to merge the official openjump with sigle version (see > :http://www.projet-sigle.org/wiki/wakka.php?wiki=OpenJUMPPage). > It's sure we can improve our road map and dev method but projet-sigle is > very much in demand while contributos are limited. > > > > > c) ISA have the same needs as Lat/Lon, but apply a pure plugin strategy > > > - which might be currently the best strategy solution (concerning the > > > time efforts) > > > d) Pirol is a project, and has similar specifics as ISA and Lat/Lon > > > e) VividSolutions may have their own ideas on the future > > > > > > did i forgot someone? > > > > > > main point on that listing is that the projects and companies have > > > different needs.. thus may need functionality which are not needed by > > > average OJ users. Further companies have the save-time issue.. > > > Thus best general strategy is the plugin-strategy. Although a more close > > > work with SIGLE might be possible. The plugin strategy has only one > > > disadavantage, which is the language translation thing. > > > > > This is a good point. One thing is to decide what's needed in the core > > (raster support? yes. mrsid support? no, plug-in! point symbolizers? > > yes. postgis support? yes? plug-in manager? yes! this will also require > > a web server, where the plug-in reside. etc, etc...) > > > I hope that we can discuss some of the future directions on that > > > workshop in Lausanne. Unfortunately the way is a bit long and expensive > > > for you and for the other non-europeans.. but if there are any results > > > on that meeting i will report them. > > > > > Well, some OJ people will be there. It'll be a chance to meet and define > > targets. Decisions should be taken when Sunburned is accessible. Perhaps > > we could organize his virtual presence (a chat or some teleconference). > > Martin Davis will also be there and it'll be a chance to ask for his > > opinion. > > > A chat is a good point. > > Kenavo. > > R1. > > > Cheers, > > > > Ugo > > > stefan > > > > > > Sunburned Surveyor wrote: > > > > > > > > >> I've given everyone a couple of days to respond to my post about > > >> reactivating the Development Comdmittee. I was disappointed that I > > >> didn't get any responses. I'm afraid the current situation is due in > > >> large part to my neglect, and the fact that I have left Stefan to > > >> carry most of the administrative load. > > >> > > >> I am going to take a more active role in the JPP and OpenJUMP starting > > >> today. I think the project has been suffering because of a lack of > > >> coordination between the different teams developing there own versions > > >> of OpenJUMP. I really think that OpenJUMP and the JUMP Pilot Project > > >> need to have an administrator that isn't directly tied to the other > > >> JUMP projects, and for the time being I will be that person. > > >> > > >> I think that most of the developers are concerned with improving and > > >> maintaining there own versions of OpenJUMP. I understand this, but > > >> hope we can all work together more in the near future. In the meantime > > >> I will be making some significant changes to OpenJUMP, mostly > > >> administrative in nature. Here is the agenda I will be working to > > >> implement in the next couple of weeks: > > >> > > >> (1) Migrating to a new wiki: Our existing wiki is somewhat cluttered, > > >> and we still have Jon Acquino hosting. I have started a new wiki for > > >> the JPP here: > > >> > > >> http://thejumppilotproject.pbwiki.com/ > > >> > > >> This wiki host is free, there is no size restriction, I can use a > > >> password mechanism to prevent spamming, and I can generate a back-up > > >> zip file of the wiki with a single mouse click. I will leave the > > >> OpenJUMP wiki up at Jon's site until use of the new wiki picks up. > > >> > > >> (2) Subversion Repository: I will be creating a Subversion repository > > >> for OpenJUMP source code at the SourceForge site. I believe the CVS > > >> repository can remain in place. However, I am using Subversion as my > > >> main source code repository for other projects, I think it has > > >> definite advantages over CVS, and I know it works well with Eclipse on > > >> both Windows and Linux operating systems. I will also be creating some > > >> standards for those developers that want to commit to the subversion > > >> repository. > > >> > > >> (3) Preventing Plug-In Chaos: I've got a link on the new wiki site for > > >> a plug-in catalog. I hope to start tracking information about plug-ins > > >> that can be used in OpenJUMP without modification, and that aren't > > >> tied to a specific "brand" of JUMP. I have heard a lot of discussion > > >> and confusion on the mailing list about raster support. One of my main > > >> development goals will be an "official" version of a raster plug-in > > >> for OpenJUMP. I also plan on creating a simple solution to the memory > > >> limit for large data files. > > >> > > >> Please remember that I am always open to changing my policies and > > >> plans when it comes to OpenJUMP and the JUMP Pilot Project. If you > > >> have concerns about my changes and want to become involved in the > > >> decision process you just have to let me know. In the meantime, I'm > > >> going to get to work. > > >> > > >> The Sunburned Surveyor > > >> > > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, > security? > > >> Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job > easier > > >> Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache > Geronimo > > >> > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Jump-pilot-devel mailing list > > >> Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Using Tomcat but need to do more? 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