Hello all, #about the "what services would you like to see juju'ed" question
I have been working on high performance computing supplying Linux clusters to research facilities for the last 2,5 years, one of the things that could make (maas +) juju extremely attractive to such institutions and businesses would be to see juju charms deploying common HPC cluster services. A cluster is in principle very easy to setup and composed by very little services and required configuration: - SSH keys between the nodes distribuited; - A scheduler for compute jobs (slurm, sge, torque, etc) composed by the server and client packages, optional: some sort of database for accounting, authentication service (munge is very common) for security; - A set of libraries and mpi implementations that the nodes can use to run compute jobs. - Power control (already implemented in maas if not mistaken) and monitoring (nagios or sorts). That will be your basic cluster structure and should allow you to run jobs between nodes. HPC is niche that can translate to big business. Seeing Ubuntu direct some effort to that direction would be, imho, very attractive depending on Canonical's will. Regards, Bruno Pereira On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 2:00 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Send Juju mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/juju > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Juju digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. What basic services are you missing in the charm store? > (Jorge O. Castro) > 2. Re: What basic services are you missing in the charm store? > (Richard Harding) > 3. Re: What basic services are you missing in the charm store? > (Ed Bond) > 4. Re: What basic services are you missing in the charm store? > (Casey Canonical Marshall) > 5. Re: What basic services are you missing in the charm store? > (Jorge O. Castro) > 6. Re: What basic services are you missing in the charm store? > (Jorge O. Castro) > 7. Re: What basic services are you missing in the charm store? > (Randall Ross ?) > 8. Re: Juju Office Hours, Monday 24 Aug, 20:00UTC (Jorge O. Castro) > 9. Re: Juju Office Hours, Monday 24 Aug, 20:00UTC (Marco Ceppi) > 10. Re: What basic services are you missing in the charm store? > (Daniel Bidwell) > 11. Re: [Review Queue] Plumgrid Suite of SDN (Mark Shuttleworth) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 12:09:25 -0400 > From: "Jorge O. Castro" <[email protected]> > To: juju <[email protected]> > Subject: What basic services are you missing in the charm store? > Message-ID: > < > ca+6nwttwvebifowfhel6qbuxm5v0wj5b3+pczifcmchlszk...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Hi everyone, > > I'm taking a quick informal survey. We have teams working on things > like really complicated big data stacks[1] and container orchestration > awesomeness[2]. > > However I wanted to take a minute to ask people what basic, normal, > boring services they feel are missing from the charm store. Things > that we tend to forget because we're thinking of the complex problems. > For example, Robie Basak pointed out to me that it'd be nice to have a > "mail-in-the-box" style bundle that did a secure, simple mail server > stack and that it'd be nice to have a promoted "just a blog" bundle > that is more straightforward. > > Things of that sort. > > 1: https://jujucharms.com/u/bigdata-dev/realtime-syslog-analytics > 2: > https://github.com/kubernetes/kubernetes/tree/master/cluster/juju/bundles > > -- > Jorge Castro > Canonical Ltd. > http://juju.ubuntu.com/ - Automate your Cloud Infrastructure > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 13:01:27 -0400 > From: Richard Harding <[email protected]> > To: "Jorge O. Castro" <[email protected]> > Cc: juju <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: What basic services are you missing in the charm store? > Message-ID: <20150824170127.GE1883@hulk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > On Mon, 24 Aug 2015, Jorge O. Castro wrote: > > > Hi everyone, > > > > I'm taking a quick informal survey. We have teams working on things > > like really complicated big data stacks[1] and container orchestration > > awesomeness[2]. > > > > However I wanted to take a minute to ask people what basic, normal, > > boring services they feel are missing from the charm store. Things > > that we tend to forget because we're thinking of the complex problems. > > For example, Robie Basak pointed out to me that it'd be nice to have a > > "mail-in-the-box" style bundle that did a secure, simple mail server > > stack and that it'd be nice to have a promoted "just a blog" bundle > > that is more straightforward. > > > > Things of that sort. > > > > 1: https://jujucharms.com/u/bigdata-dev/realtime-syslog-analytics > > 2: > https://github.com/kubernetes/kubernetes/tree/master/cluster/juju/bundles > > > With the recent discussion and focus on things for developers there's a > couple I think that would be cool > > One that I think would be cool is sentry [1][2]. It's a great debugging > tool > for python applications and if things like the django framework charm > supported it ootb it'd make an amazing one-two punch for developers. It can > also be used from ruby and other languages. newrelic [3] is another in this > category. I see a charm was created but not tried it out [4] > > The other I think that would be great would be nginx [5]. I know personally > I've used it to replace apache, haproxy, and squid into a single service. > If that were able to work with SSL termination, static file caching, and > proxying scaled up applications behind it, that'd be great for a density > story, good development practices story, etc. > > I sure wish we could package up travisci as that would be awesome to go > with folks code and run your own internally/etc. > > > 1: https://getsentry.com/welcome/ > 2: https://github.com/getsentry/sentry > 3: http://newrelic.com/application-monitoring > 4: https://jujucharms.com/newrelic/precise/3 > 5: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nginx > > -- > > Rick Harding > > Juju UI Engineering > https://launchpad.net/~rharding > @mitechie > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 12:05:25 -0500 > From: Ed Bond <[email protected]> > To: Richard Harding <[email protected]> > Cc: juju <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: What basic services are you missing in the charm store? > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I know I had issues setting up gitlab and Redmine. > > I ended up having to docker containers and opening the ports. > > Maybe a startup bundle of sorts? > Everything just works OOTB. > > Source code repo, blog/front end website, continuous integration, and bug > tracking. > > Just my thoughts > > -Ed > > > On Aug 24, 2015, at 12:01 PM, Richard Harding < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > >> On Mon, 24 Aug 2015, Jorge O. Castro wrote: > >> > >> Hi everyone, > >> > >> I'm taking a quick informal survey. We have teams working on things > >> like really complicated big data stacks[1] and container orchestration > >> awesomeness[2]. > >> > >> However I wanted to take a minute to ask people what basic, normal, > >> boring services they feel are missing from the charm store. Things > >> that we tend to forget because we're thinking of the complex problems. > >> For example, Robie Basak pointed out to me that it'd be nice to have a > >> "mail-in-the-box" style bundle that did a secure, simple mail server > >> stack and that it'd be nice to have a promoted "just a blog" bundle > >> that is more straightforward. > >> > >> Things of that sort. > >> > >> 1: https://jujucharms.com/u/bigdata-dev/realtime-syslog-analytics > >> 2: > https://github.com/kubernetes/kubernetes/tree/master/cluster/juju/bundles > > > > > > With the recent discussion and focus on things for developers there's a > > couple I think that would be cool > > > > One that I think would be cool is sentry [1][2]. It's a great debugging > tool > > for python applications and if things like the django framework charm > > supported it ootb it'd make an amazing one-two punch for developers. It > can > > also be used from ruby and other languages. newrelic [3] is another in > this > > category. I see a charm was created but not tried it out [4] > > > > The other I think that would be great would be nginx [5]. I know > personally > > I've used it to replace apache, haproxy, and squid into a single service. > > If that were able to work with SSL termination, static file caching, and > > proxying scaled up applications behind it, that'd be great for a density > > story, good development practices story, etc. > > > > I sure wish we could package up travisci as that would be awesome to go > > with folks code and run your own internally/etc. > > > > > > 1: https://getsentry.com/welcome/ > > 2: https://github.com/getsentry/sentry > > 3: http://newrelic.com/application-monitoring > > 4: https://jujucharms.com/newrelic/precise/3 > > 5: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nginx > > > > -- > > > > Rick Harding > > > > Juju UI Engineering > > https://launchpad.net/~rharding > > @mitechie > > > > -- > > Juju mailing list > > [email protected] > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/juju > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 13:52:09 -0500 > From: Casey Canonical Marshall <[email protected]> > To: "Jorge O. Castro" <[email protected]> > Cc: juju <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: What basic services are you missing in the charm store? > Message-ID: > <CAC=ruh2Nk5z3D7bBTQ9eu6= > [email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Jorge O. Castro <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Hi everyone, > > > > I'm taking a quick informal survey. We have teams working on things > > like really complicated big data stacks[1] and container orchestration > > awesomeness[2]. > > > > However I wanted to take a minute to ask people what basic, normal, > > boring services they feel are missing from the charm store. Things > > that we tend to forget because we're thinking of the complex problems. > > > > I'd like to see open bugs in the mongodb charm fixed[1]. We're starting to > depend on this charm in production for sites like jujucharms.com, yet many > of these bugs affect our ability to deploy MongoDB effectively. For > example: enabling replica sets on deploy isn't currently possible (race > condition in the charm), MongoDB version > 2.4 isn't supported last I > checked, and it lacks suitable nagios integration to monitor it > effectively. > > It's possible that the charm would benefit from being rewritten in a more > modern, maintainable style as well -- that might help others contribute to > its success. > > [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/charms/+source/mongodb > > > > For example, Robie Basak pointed out to me that it'd be nice to have a > > "mail-in-the-box" style bundle that did a secure, simple mail server > > stack and that it'd be nice to have a promoted "just a blog" bundle > > that is more straightforward. > > > > Things of that sort. > > > > 1: https://jujucharms.com/u/bigdata-dev/realtime-syslog-analytics > > 2: > > > https://github.com/kubernetes/kubernetes/tree/master/cluster/juju/bundles > > > > -- > > Jorge Castro > > Canonical Ltd. > > http://juju.ubuntu.com/ - Automate your Cloud Infrastructure > > > > -- > > Juju mailing list > > [email protected] > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/juju > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/juju/attachments/20150824/f40a1e9f/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 14:59:40 -0400 > From: "Jorge O. Castro" <[email protected]> > To: Casey Canonical Marshall <[email protected]> > Cc: juju <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: What basic services are you missing in the charm store? > Message-ID: > < > ca+6nwtv0mtagyqnx5n1p0ohcsgerja_mpt51+0q+qbvabaa...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Casey Canonical Marshall > <[email protected]> wrote: > > I'd like to see open bugs in the mongodb charm fixed[1]. > > If anyone else has any critical bugs in charms that you feel are > making you not want to use Juju then I'd love to hear those as well! > > > -- > Jorge Castro > Canonical Ltd. > http://juju.ubuntu.com/ - Automate your Cloud Infrastructure > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 15:31:01 -0400 > From: "Jorge O. Castro" <[email protected]> > To: Ed Bond <[email protected]> > Cc: juju <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: What basic services are you missing in the charm store? > Message-ID: > < > ca+6nwtshduxdne7c1vcmdovh7vcpwdbbpuzlmsjm+ayg4j3...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 1:05 PM, Ed Bond <[email protected]> wrote: > > Maybe a startup bundle of sorts? > > Everything just works OOTB. > > Brilliant idea, I'll start a list of things of that nature. If anyone > knows which of the Slack-clone OSS bits is the one to go with then > feel free to send me a link offlist. > > -- > Jorge Castro > Canonical Ltd. > http://juju.ubuntu.com/ - Automate your Cloud Infrastructure > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 12:54:01 -0700 > From: Randall Ross ? <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: What basic services are you missing in the charm store? > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > On 08/24/2015 09:09 AM, Jorge O. Castro wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > I'm taking a quick informal survey. We have teams working on things > > like really complicated big data stacks[1] and container orchestration > > awesomeness[2]. > > > > However I wanted to take a minute to ask people what basic, normal, > > boring services they feel are missing from the charm store. Things > > that we tend to forget because we're thinking of the complex problems. > > For example, Robie Basak pointed out to me that it'd be nice to have a > > "mail-in-the-box" style bundle that did a secure, simple mail server > > stack and that it'd be nice to have a promoted "just a blog" bundle > > that is more straightforward. > > > > Things of that sort. > > > > 1: https://jujucharms.com/u/bigdata-dev/realtime-syslog-analytics > > 2: > https://github.com/kubernetes/kubernetes/tree/master/cluster/juju/bundles > > > Hi Jorge, and Ubuntu friends, > > I would love to see bundles that are abstracted to the "use-case" level, > and friendly to people that are not immersed in tech. > > Some examples: > > 1. "*Small Business Bundle*" - a set of basic services that every > small business would need (but struggles with), > 2. "*Personal Services Bundle*" - kinda like Freedombox (and > expanding on Robie's idea), basic stuff like email, shared > storage, calendaring, etc. > 3. "*Reputation (sentiment) Monitoring Bundle*" - what's being said > about my company, or me? > 4. "*Personal Data Rescue Bundle*" - grabs anything that's > exportable from my social media accounts and places into a > database that I control > 5. "*Vendor Relations Management*" - the opposite of CRM, allowing > me to share very specific data with companies/agencies/people I > may want to do business with. > 6. "*Find Me A Cloud*" - surveys available clouds based on some > parameters I set and tells me which would be the best one for my > use-case, inverting the usual "I have to find a cloud before > deploying a bundle" model. > > Thanks for kicking off the discussion! > > Cheers, > Randall. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/juju/attachments/20150824/022987e3/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 17:03:42 -0400 > From: "Jorge O. Castro" <[email protected]> > To: juju <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Juju Office Hours, Monday 24 Aug, 20:00UTC > Message-ID: > <CA+6NWts4kWS5i= > [email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Hi everyone, a feature packed show this week: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0x0SISDRaI > > Including a nice tip from Rick, did you know you can search for > interface names in the jujucharms.com search? > > Example: https://jujucharms.com/q/db-admin > > All that and more! > > -- > Jorge Castro > Canonical Ltd. > http://juju.ubuntu.com/ - Automate your Cloud Infrastructure > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 21:16:14 +0000 > From: Marco Ceppi <[email protected]> > To: "Jorge O. Castro" <[email protected]>, juju <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Juju Office Hours, Monday 24 Aug, 20:00UTC > Message-ID: > < > caguw62d1_6twlfyg3pnnno8caoes+4vfwd10oqwejhaf0tx...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > To highlight some of the things talked about in this office hours: > > - Rick Harding takes us through the bundle transition format, doc web > improvements, and some cool features his team is using from Juju core > https://youtu.be/E0x0SISDRaI?t=1m40s > - Wayne Witzel outlines what him and his team is working on around process > and workload management in Juju core https://youtu.be/E0x0SISDRaI?t=16m59s > - Kevin Monroe shows us some of the work the Ecosystem Big Data group has > been working using extended status, actions, hadoop and bit of the hadoop > ecosystem https://youtu.be/E0x0SISDRaI?t=23m57s > - Cory Johns demos something he's been working on with others "juju > compose" where you can build a charm from multiple layers that are > independent. Very cool pattern https://youtu.be/E0x0SISDRaI?t=32m33s > > Some very exciting things indeed in this action packed office hour > > Marco Ceppi > > On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 5:04 PM Jorge O. Castro <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi everyone, a feature packed show this week: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0x0SISDRaI > > > > Including a nice tip from Rick, did you know you can search for > > interface names in the jujucharms.com search? > > > > Example: https://jujucharms.com/q/db-admin > > > > All that and more! > > > > -- > > Jorge Castro > > Canonical Ltd. > > http://juju.ubuntu.com/ - Automate your Cloud Infrastructure > > > > -- > > Juju mailing list > > [email protected] > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/juju > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/juju/attachments/20150824/6a7e8f06/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 22:58:07 -0400 > From: Daniel Bidwell <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: What basic services are you missing in the charm store? > Message-ID: <1440471487.5210.2.camel@samwise> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > I'll +1 the nginx charm > > On Mon, 2015-08-24 at 13:01 -0400, Richard Harding wrote: > > On Mon, 24 Aug 2015, Jorge O. Castro wrote: > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > I'm taking a quick informal survey. We have teams working on things > > > like really complicated big data stacks[1] and container orchestration > > > awesomeness[2]. > > > > > > However I wanted to take a minute to ask people what basic, normal, > > > boring services they feel are missing from the charm store. Things > > > that we tend to forget because we're thinking of the complex problems. > > > For example, Robie Basak pointed out to me that it'd be nice to have a > > > "mail-in-the-box" style bundle that did a secure, simple mail server > > > stack and that it'd be nice to have a promoted "just a blog" bundle > > > that is more straightforward. > > > > > > Things of that sort. > > > > > > 1: https://jujucharms.com/u/bigdata-dev/realtime-syslog-analytics > > > 2: > https://github.com/kubernetes/kubernetes/tree/master/cluster/juju/bundles > > > > > > With the recent discussion and focus on things for developers there's a > > couple I think that would be cool > > > > One that I think would be cool is sentry [1][2]. It's a great debugging > tool > > for python applications and if things like the django framework charm > > supported it ootb it'd make an amazing one-two punch for developers. It > can > > also be used from ruby and other languages. newrelic [3] is another in > this > > category. I see a charm was created but not tried it out [4] > > > > The other I think that would be great would be nginx [5]. I know > personally > > I've used it to replace apache, haproxy, and squid into a single service. > > If that were able to work with SSL termination, static file caching, and > > proxying scaled up applications behind it, that'd be great for a density > > story, good development practices story, etc. > > > > I sure wish we could package up travisci as that would be awesome to go > > with folks code and run your own internally/etc. > > > > > > 1: https://getsentry.com/welcome/ > > 2: https://github.com/getsentry/sentry > > 3: http://newrelic.com/application-monitoring > > 4: https://jujucharms.com/newrelic/precise/3 > > 5: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nginx > > > > -- > > > > Rick Harding > > > > Juju UI Engineering > > https://launchpad.net/~rharding > > @mitechie > > > > -- > Daniel Bidwell <[email protected]> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2015 11:28:07 +0100 > From: Mark Shuttleworth <[email protected]> > To: Charles Butler <[email protected]>, juju > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Review Queue] Plumgrid Suite of SDN > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > On 21/08/15 04:28, Charles Butler wrote: > > I took a look at the plumgrid stack which after an architectural > > refactoring is very close to being accepted. There are simple nitpick > final > > round revisions to the project meta that need to be cleaned up so we > ensure > > they have a good segway into the OIL labs and they should be good to go. > > Delighted to see the PlumGrid charms coming into focus, it's a very > interesting approach to DNS and generalised IO transformation! > > Mark > > > > ------------------------------ > > -- > Juju mailing list > [email protected] > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/juju > > > End of Juju Digest, Vol 55, Issue 18 > ************************************ >
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