On 28 May 00, at 11:22, Martin Smith wrote:
> Can someone clue me in on the relationship and roadmap/timeline for
> JRun/CF integration?
>
That you'll have to talk to Allaire about. From what I understand you
can already integrate the two together. This integration is primarily
for CF programmers who want to have easy access to Java servlets.
> I've played with CF Express, but I'm really interested in getting on
> board with a standard (J2EE) product. (Also played with the Gefion free
> JSP product.) As I get it now, JRun 3 is in beta; that's a J2EE product
> (supports servlet, EJB and JSP) that Allaire bought a while back.
JRun is simply a servlet engine. It's probably the most popular of
the commercial servlet engines. I don't exactly the type of EJB
support it will have.
> Meanwhile, CF is a non-standard tag/scripting environment in version 4.5
> or so.
>
> I think I'm reading at allaire's site that there will be a "merged"
> product at some time in the future. (When??)
Again you'll have to talk to Allaire.
>
> So does it make sense to jump on Jrun now and see where it goes? Is
> there any reason to get into CF itself? Are there better (more
> advanced, more standard, more relaible, better value) J2EE platforms
> that should be considered?
CF is great if you need access to databases and/or non-Java
technologies like COM. The best comparison is that it's a
commerical equivalent of PHP or Zope.
There's plenty of J2EE products out there. I don't know of I'd pick
JRun as my engine of choice to do EJBs since it doesn't offer
support for them now. If you need Java servlet support and you
*must* use commerical, then i'd probably recommend them.
Otherwise I'd go with Tomcat (jakarta.apache.org).
If you need EJB support you might want to look into things like
BEA WebLogic or Unify (www.unfiy.com) or Orion
(www.orionserver.com). Or you might want to look into Enhyrdra
from Lutris (www.enhydra.org) which makes an open-source servlet
integration package similar to what Allaire wants to do, except it's
now ready & has been for over a year. Enhydra is also releasing an
open-source EJB server later this year.
We use Alliare CF at work for database development and we've had
ok luck with it. I've used JRun in the past as well and until Tomcat
it was my preference. But I wouldn't use Allaire now unless my
boss prevented me from using open-source solutions.
Mark
>
> TIA
>
> Martin
>
> PS--Environment is a small ($50m) org with limited app development
> needs, but looking for a common Web-app platform for all in-house and
> contracted projects.
I'd seriously look into Enhydra and Cold Fusion. Make sure you
have the full Cold Fusion development environment when you do
the comparison because several key components are left out of the
express edition like LDAP.
Mark
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