Sorry again if I was offensive. Trying to be ironical in a foreing
language frequently leads to this, I should've known better. I'm glad
we sorted it out, except for the soccer thing ;)

About having no idea on the scope of your project, that's what I was
trying to ask you. It's easier to help or offer advice knowing the
whole context, objectives and all, than looking at separate pieces.

cheers
-- ricardo

On Jul 9, 6:51 pm, expresso <dschin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It's too bad we didn't kick your ass in soccer the past couple weeks
> ago.  Now I wish we really had!
>
> Brazil is overrated in soccer.
>
> On Jul 9, 4:40 pm, expresso <dschin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > This is exactly the kind of shit I'm talking about and I am cocky?
> > unreal.
>
> > On Jul 9, 4:37 pm, expresso <dschin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Has nothing to do with me not being good enough and you have no idea
> > > on the scope of my project.  I can't believe you actually replied like
> > > that and honestly coming here to tell me you're serious.  But to state
> > > something like that and to butt in like this is unbelievable.  Do you
> > > do this to people at work?  They'd probably kick your ass for saying
> > > something like that.
>
> > > On Jul 9, 4:27 pm, Ricardo <ricardob...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > It's not meant to be derogatory, no. I've said that many times, it's a
> > > > fact isn't it? Sorry if it came out as rude. I could name dozens of
> > > > better programmers than I am, and I'm not pissed off by that!
>
> > > > On Jul 9, 6:06 pm, expresso <dschin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > >>>Or just save your sleep time and hire someone with more experience 
> > > > > >>>to
>
> > > > > do this for you :]
>
> > > > > can I ask you if that was a derogatory statement?  Seems like it to
> > > > > me.
>
> > > > > On Jul 9, 3:34 pm, Ricardo <ricardob...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > "expresso" (we don't know your name), if you're still in need of 
> > > > > > help,
> > > > > > why not post an overview of what you need? You've posted several
> > > > > > pieces of your puzzle but no one can guess the overall structure
> > > > > > you're trying to code. Like "I need a carousel that expands when
> > > > > > blablabla and loads blablabla from json". And I'm pretty sure you 
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > an architectural problem there, the specific issues that pop up are
> > > > > > just a consequence of a lack of planning.
>
> > > > > > Or just save your sleep time and hire someone with more experience 
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > do this for you :]
>
> > > > > > And, please, try to keep discussions decently worded, and avoid
> > > > > > posting in sequence, specially if it's just pointless fighting, this
> > > > > > is a public forum. Thanks!
>
> > > > > > On Jul 9, 4:45 pm, expresso <dschin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > I understand.  I have nothing that much against you Morning and 
> > > > > > > I'll
> > > > > > > try to sound less abrasive in the future.  Keep in mind I have 
> > > > > > > been up
> > > > > > > till about 12:30am for about 4 nights straight on this so I am
> > > > > > > definitely trying all I could on customizing it and could not 
> > > > > > > afford
> > > > > > > to just step back and say forget this plug-in because I had gotten
> > > > > > > much to far into it for our solution.
>
> > > > > > > I am not one to just post and get freebies.  Trust me, that's 
> > > > > > > lame.
>
> > > > > > > On Jul 9, 2:42 pm, MorningZ <morni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > It's been perfectly clear that whatever you are trying to 
> > > > > > > > accomplish
> > > > > > > > is anything *but* simple...  and after two weeks of messing 
> > > > > > > > with it,
> > > > > > > > maybe it is/was time to cut your losses on trying to manipulate 
> > > > > > > > code
> > > > > > > > with which you have no idea what is going on under the hood.....
> > > > > > > > and code that someone wrote for free, supported for free, and 
> > > > > > > > has
> > > > > > > > since moved on......  the tablesorter plugin is the same way... 
> > > > > > > > it's
> > > > > > > > an older plugin that still works today, but people customizing 
> > > > > > > > it are
> > > > > > > > on their own...
>
> > > > > > > > whatever... i've done my best to help and point out issues to 
> > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > point....    best of luck... looks like you'll need it
> > > > > > > > .
>
> > > > > > > > On Jul 9, 3:33 pm, expresso <dschin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > Funny thing is, I'll be blogging about this carousel.  And 
> > > > > > > > > you may
> > > > > > > > > find my implementation to be pretty complex but you would not 
> > > > > > > > > know
> > > > > > > > > about the entire implementation and you assume that what we 
> > > > > > > > > are doing
> > > > > > > > > is "simple"
>
> > > > > > > > > On Jul 9, 2:03 pm, expresso <dschin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>making it difficult to understand what you are asking
>
> > > > > > > > > > tell me how it's difficult, I am very thorough in 
> > > > > > > > > > explaining the
> > > > > > > > > > situation and things tried.
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Jul 9, 1:57 pm, expresso <dschin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > You've got it backwards.... it makes more sense and keeps 
> > > > > > > > > > > the clutter
> > > > > > > > > > > out if you stay in the same topic.....
>
> > > > > > > > > > > I did not say not to stay on the same topic.  I said if I 
> > > > > > > > > > > start
> > > > > > > > > > > veering off into anther discussion that's talking about a 
> > > > > > > > > > > different
> > > > > > > > > > > approach (in this case in that previous thread I started 
> > > > > > > > > > > with a
> > > > > > > > > > > question about obtaining the LAST <li>).  Then I 
> > > > > > > > > > > wondering maybe
> > > > > > > > > > > instead I can just iterate through the list of <li> and 
> > > > > > > > > > > grab some by
> > > > > > > > > > > index.  At that point, that's a whole different issue or 
> > > > > > > > > > > scope.  Yea,
> > > > > > > > > > > that time I should have stuck with the thread because I 
> > > > > > > > > > > already
> > > > > > > > > > > committed to the question on the index.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Anyway I get it.  But I should not be posting 2 different 
> > > > > > > > > > > questions on
> > > > > > > > > > > the same thread which is what I try to avoid
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 9, 1:54 pm, expresso <dschin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > how the hell am I being rude?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > And second, I am giving information to help you help 
> > > > > > > > > > > > me.  Again I try
> > > > > > > > > > > > all sorts of shit before I post stuff.  I don't just 
> > > > > > > > > > > > post on every
> > > > > > > > > > > > step of the way.  I am showing you what I have tried.  
> > > > > > > > > > > > So you either
> > > > > > > > > > > > get called out for not giving enough information or 
> > > > > > > > > > > > giving too
> > > > > > > > > > > > little.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Chill
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 9, 11:04 am, MorningZ <morni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > "so it's only respectful on my part to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > start a new thread on a different topic that's 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > veering off in the same
> > > > > > > > > > > > > thread.  Not cool. "
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > You've got it backwards.... it makes more sense and 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > keeps the clutter
> > > > > > > > > > > > > out if you stay in the same topic.....
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > As Liam points out.... you already asked the index 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > question, AND it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > was answered by Charlie, in the topic you created 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > just 13 hours ago
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/jquery-en/browse_thread/thread/8832916...
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > and yet, here's an identical topic asking the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > identical question with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 2 min apart two sentence ramblings on them all....
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Realize what this list for what it is:   a mailing 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > list where lots of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > us provide free help out of our own time....
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > making it difficult to understand what you are 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > asking, being rude to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > people trying to show you the way, rambling on and on 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > with the same
> > > > > > > > > > > > > stuff....  all that doesn't lend itself very well to 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > make your issues
> > > > > > > > > > > > > worth other peoples time and effort
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > .
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 9, 11:12 am, expresso <dschin...@gmail.com> 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because sometimes I get into other topics not 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > related to my original
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > posts in those other thread so it's only respectful 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > on my part to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > start a new thread on a different topic that's 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > veering off in the same
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > thread.  Not cool.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 9, 9:30 am, Liam Potter 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <radioactiv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > how about reading all the replies to your other 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thread about this?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > $("#mycarousel > li:eq(10)").css("margin-right", 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "5px");
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > expresso wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it possible to target certain <li> in an 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unordered list by index
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with jQuery?  I thought maybe I could use 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .index but was not able to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > get the syntax right.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I thought maybe something like this would work 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but is has not:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > $("#mycarousel > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > li").index(i).css("margin-right", "5px");

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