Hi, Ricardo... I haven't complained about anyone's criticism of the "tutorial" aspect of what has been presented...it's the "what-good-is-this" mentality concerning what Adrian had created that I thought was in poor taste.
My mention of tutorials was to remind everyone that this was obviously the first steps for someone working on a project. No faster way to kill someone's enthusiasm than to simply tear something down without any encouragement. It's like I tell my kids... you can't applaud the effort if not the performance. And, if asked, give encouraging criticism. Rick > -----Original Message----- > From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:jquery...@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Ricardo Tomasi > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 3:29 PM > To: jQuery (English) > Subject: [jQuery] Re: Creating an OS Web Interface in jQuery (Part I) > > > I have to agree with Alexandre. It's a nice demonstration of skill, > but pasting hundreds of lines of code in boxes is not exactly > 'teaching'. I bet most beginners would get lost pretty quickly with > the code and end up just copy/pasting it. And for intermediate/ > advanced JS programmers this isn't very useful, as it is just a > background with some drag & drop funcionality. > > Before you say that "it's just the start" I'll have to point out that, > despite it's simplicity, there are already many flaws: > - the text below the icons is selectable (and gets selected on double > click) > - same goes for 'start' and the clock > - cursor for dragging is a 'text selection' cursor > - with just a little fiddling with the icons you'll get unrequested > copies of them sitting around from failed drag&drop operations > - you can drag icons off screen and lose them forever > - icons can overlap and have an arbitrary z-index which you can't > control or reorganize > > This is just *so* far from something functional and useful that the > "tutorial" title can be considered misleading. > > However it's a very nice demonstration of how jQuery makes it very > easy to mock up something that looks and reacts (at first look) pretty > much like an OS GUI. > > Sorry if I'm being harsh, but everyone is entitled to an opinion :] > > - ricardo > > On Dec 16, 6:05 pm, "Alexandre Plennevaux" <aplennev...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Rick, I read the tutorial in its entirety before commenting. This > > document lacks structure and not only that, I could have pointed the > > many english mistakes, because obviously this was written quite fast, > > and i'm sure with a little more care and some more mindset framing, it > > should be perfect. I don't know what you consider a tutorial, but as > > for me, a tutorial means something meant to teach. In this document, > > adam shows obvious skills, but does not teach, hence i'd call this a > > demo. > > I meant to be constructive because he shows a lot of enthusiasm and > > that's his strength. But telling him this "tutorial" is perfect won't > > help him improve, nor the jquery community as a whole. > > > > hope this helps clarify my comments. > > > > Best, > > > > Alexandre > > > > On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 8:53 PM, Rick Faircloth > > > > <r...@whitestonemedia.com> wrote: > > > > > Just take it on face value... did you even look at it? > > > It's obviously an operating system interface. And, yes, > > > this is Part 1 of a series, he stated. You don't have to > > > know everything right away to appreciate what's already been done! > > > > > Rick > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:jquery...@googlegroups.com] On > > >> Behalf Of donb > > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 2:22 PM > > >> To: jQuery (English) > > >> Subject: [jQuery] Re: Creating an OS Web Interface in jQuery (Part I) > > > > >> I may seem a bit dense, but what's the objective here? And is 'OS' > > >> Operating System, Open Source, something else? Maybe Part 2 clears > > >> all this up, but some intro/background would help a lot. > > > > >> On Dec 16, 7:57 am, AdrianMG <yens...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > Finally here you have the First Part of this series of tutorials to > > >> > recreate an OS Web Interface with our lovely jQuery javascript > > >> > library. > > > > >> > Here you have the link guys, I hope you can use it for your personal > > >> > projects: > > > > >> >http://yensdesign.com/2008/12/creating-an-os-web-interface-in-jquery-...