True enough but the whole point is that since the main concern is
requiring jquery simply for loading a simplemodal from a banner
outside our website, there is no guarantee that people will have
jquery cached beforehand....
But as far as out own internal use goes then yeah you're totally right
and it shouldnt even be a concern!

-Alex

On Sep 19, 9:03 am, Matt Kruse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you've used jQuery on other pages, then it's very likely that the
> js has been cached in the user's browser anyway. Loading it again
> should not affect load times in most cases.
>
> Matt Kruse
>
> On Sep 18, 3:50 pm, Alex Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > That's possibly the smartest thing I've heard all day! :)
>
> > The content INSIDE the lightbox/modal does need jquery but the biggest
> > problem is that im dependent on using jquery to display the modal in
> > the first place... thanks i'm gonna look for alternatives! :)
>
> > On Sep 17, 2:04 pm, ricardobeat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > Don't feel tied tojQuery. There are many lightbox scripts offering
> > > modal dialogs, independent from any library, with less than 10kb
> > > uncompressed. Just google "lightbox".
>
> > > On Sep 17, 12:45 pm, Eric Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > Alex -
>
> > > > I briefly went throughjQueryand removed some of the unused parts (as
> > > > it relates to SimpleModal). I was able to get it down to just under
> > > > 75k, 42k minified (which is about 12k less that the non-modified
> > > > version). I can't make any guarantees, but if you'd like to try the
> > > > slimmed down version, just send me an email.
>
> > > > I don't really see how 55k would really "cripple" your load times -
> > > > especially if you are loading the scripts near the bottom of your
> > > > page. In addition, if you are using compression, you should hardly
> > > > notice the loading time for the script(s).
>
> > > > -Eric
>
> > > > On Sep 17, 1:20 am, Alex Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > and no i dont mean packing or minifying! :)
>
> > > > > basically all i need is 1 plugin (simplemodal) and because of that i'm
> > > > > forced to load the entirejquerylibrary, which is crippling load
> > > > > times...
>
> > > > > we usejqueryextensively in our website but we have banners in other
> > > > > sites that open a simplemodal (lightboxish) dialog and as far as the
> > > > > banners are concerned since its many sites and many different viewers
> > > > > we can't really count on caching to help either...
>
> > > > > so here's my question, is it possible to strip-down the original
> > > > >jquerysource code *just* for the banner modal?
> > > > > i guess it could be a kind of trial and error thing, but i'm wondering
> > > > > how interconnected the seperate parts of the library are and whether i
> > > > > should even spend any time on this...
>
> > > > > although it seems silly to have to load almost 50kb of additional JS
> > > > > when all i want is a 5Kb plugin :)
>
> > > > > thanks!
>
> > > > > -Alex

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