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Chia-Ping Tsai commented on KAFKA-18856:
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{quote}it is a confusing error message: "following could not be represented in 
metadata.version 3.0-IV1: feature flag(s): group.version, transaction.version."
{quote}
The error printed before "3.0-IV1" (from the empty feature image) seems helpful 
for users to understand what's happening.
{code:java}
[2025-02-24 19:19:36,482] ERROR Encountered metadata loading fault: Error 
loading metadata log record from offset 4 
(org.apache.kafka.server.fault.LoggingFaultHandler)
java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: No MetadataVersion with feature level 25
        at 
org.apache.kafka.server.common.MetadataVersion.fromFeatureLevel(MetadataVersion.java:592)
        at org.apache.kafka.image.FeaturesDelta.replay(FeaturesDelta.java:69)
        at org.apache.kafka.image.MetadataDelta.replay(MetadataDelta.java:310)
        at org.apache.kafka.image.MetadataDelta.replay(MetadataDelta.java:221)
        at 
org.apache.kafka.image.loader.MetadataBatchLoader.replay(MetadataBatchLoader.java:258)
        at 
org.apache.kafka.image.loader.MetadataBatchLoader.loadBatch(MetadataBatchLoader.java:136)
        at 
org.apache.kafka.image.loader.MetadataLoader.lambda$handleCommit$1(MetadataLoader.java:362)
        at 
org.apache.kafka.queue.KafkaEventQueue$EventContext.run(KafkaEventQueue.java:132)
        at 
org.apache.kafka.queue.KafkaEventQueue$EventHandler.handleEvents(KafkaEventQueue.java:215)
        at 
org.apache.kafka.queue.KafkaEventQueue$EventHandler.run(KafkaEventQueue.java:186)
{code}
 If we want to fix the confused "3.0-IV1", maybe we can backport a part of 
[https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/18845] to 3.9 - it changes the MV of 
empty FeatureImage from "3.0-IV1" to "empty" and add suitable error image in 
accessing MV of FeatureImage
{code:java}
[2025-02-24 20:08:13,921] ERROR Encountered metadata loading fault: Unhandled 
fault in MetadataLoader#handleCommit. Last image offset was 34 
(org.apache.kafka.server.fault.LoggingFaultHandler)
java.lang.IllegalStateException: Unknown metadata version for FeaturesImage: 
finalized_eligible.leader.replicas.version(1), finalized_group.version(1), 
finalized_transaction.version(2), metadataVersion(Optional.empty), 
zkMigrationState()
        at 
org.apache.kafka.image.FeaturesImage.lambda$metadataVersionOrThrow$0(FeaturesImage.java:73)
 ~[kafka-metadata-4.0.0-SNAPSHOT.jar:?]
        at java.base/java.util.Optional.orElseThrow(Optional.java:403) ~[?:?]
        at 
org.apache.kafka.image.FeaturesImage.metadataVersionOrThrow(FeaturesImage.java:72)
 ~[kafka-metadata-4.0.0-SNAPSHOT.jar:?]
        at 
org.apache.kafka.image.loader.MetadataLoader.maybePublishMetadata(MetadataLoader.java:348)
 ~[kafka-metadata-4.0.0-SNAPSHOT.jar:?]
        at 
org.apache.kafka.image.loader.MetadataBatchLoader.applyDeltaAndUpdate(MetadataBatchLoader.java:275)
 ~[kafka-metadata-4.0.0-SNAPSHOT.jar:?]
        at 
org.apache.kafka.image.loader.MetadataBatchLoader.maybeFlushBatches(MetadataBatchLoader.java:211)
 ~[kafka-metadata-4.0.0-SNAPSHOT.jar:?]
        at 
org.apache.kafka.image.loader.MetadataLoader.lambda$handleCommit$1(MetadataLoader.java:364)
 ~[kafka-metadata-4.0.0-SNAPSHOT.jar:?]
        at 
org.apache.kafka.queue.KafkaEventQueue$EventContext.run(KafkaEventQueue.java:132)
 ~[kafka-server-common-4.0.0-SNAPSHOT.jar:?]
        at 
org.apache.kafka.queue.KafkaEventQueue$EventHandler.handleEvents(KafkaEventQueue.java:215)
 ~[kafka-server-common-4.0.0-SNAPSHOT.jar:?]
        at 
org.apache.kafka.queue.KafkaEventQueue$EventHandler.run(KafkaEventQueue.java:186)
 ~[kafka-server-common-4.0.0-SNAPSHOT.jar:?]
        at java.base/java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:1583) [?:?]
{code}

> 3.9 broker unable to join dynamic quorum with 4.0 controller
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: KAFKA-18856
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-18856
>             Project: Kafka
>          Issue Type: Bug
>            Reporter: TengYao Chi
>            Assignee: TengYao Chi
>            Priority: Major
>
> Test step:
>  * format 4.0 controller /w controller.properties & standalone
>  ** bin/kafka-storage.sh format --standalone -t "dAtBluZORiuJEKV2uSWB2Q" -c 
> config/controller.properties
>  * start 4.0 controller
>  * init 3.9 broker /w kraft/broker.properties & no-initial-controllers 
>  ** bin/kafka-storage.sh format -t "dAtBluZORiuJEKV2uSWB2Q" --config 
> config/kraft/broker.properties -N
>  * start 3.9 broker
> error message:
> {code:java}
> [2025-02-24 23:13:21,271] ERROR Encountered metadata loading fault: Unhandled 
> error initializing new publishers 
> (org.apache.kafka.server.fault.LoggingFaultHandler)
> org.apache.kafka.image.writer.UnwritableMetadataException: Metadata has been 
> lost because the following could not be represented in metadata.version 
> 3.0-IV1: feature flag(s): group.version, transaction.version
>     at 
> org.apache.kafka.image.writer.ImageWriterOptions.handleLoss(ImageWriterOptions.java:94)
>     at 
> org.apache.kafka.image.FeaturesImage.handleFeatureLevelNotSupported(FeaturesImage.java:108)
>     at org.apache.kafka.image.FeaturesImage.write(FeaturesImage.java:88)
>     at org.apache.kafka.image.MetadataImage.write(MetadataImage.java:153)
>     at 
> org.apache.kafka.image.loader.MetadataLoader.initializeNewPublishers(MetadataLoader.java:296)
>     at 
> org.apache.kafka.image.loader.MetadataLoader.lambda$scheduleInitializeNewPublishers$0(MetadataLoader.java:267)
>     at 
> org.apache.kafka.queue.KafkaEventQueue$EventContext.run(KafkaEventQueue.java:132)
>     at 
> org.apache.kafka.queue.KafkaEventQueue$EventHandler.handleEvents(KafkaEventQueue.java:215)
>     at 
> org.apache.kafka.queue.KafkaEventQueue$EventHandler.run(KafkaEventQueue.java:186)
>     at java.base/java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:1583)
> ^C[2025-02-24 23:13:21,658] INFO Terminating process due to signal SIGINT 
> (org.apache.kafka.common.utils.LoggingSignalHandler)
> [2025-02-24 23:13:21,660] INFO App info kafka.server for 2 unregistered 
> (org.apache.kafka.common.utils.AppInfoParser) {code}



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