> You appear to be responding to the very beginning of the thread. > You might want to read through the rest of the thread.
I did read the whole thread. My comments regarded your initial post, hence I replied to it.
> They have made a number of improvements to support CSS. Agreed, > they didn't implement the box model correctly in V5 but this is well > known and easily compensated for.
Really...
> By client-side technologies I"m referring to Flash, SVG, applets, > DHTML. These aren't at all flaky unless someone doesn't understand > how to work with them.
I like SVG, but no browser natively supports the technology, you have to use a plugin. Mozilla support is far from being complete and stable, and IE doesn't care. Applets not flaky: right!
> Totally disagree - round trips make for a completely annoying user > experience and it's what is wrong with many sites.
That's unfortunate, but that's the best we have IMO.
> Any proof-of-concept would have to come from those that are > interally familiar with the implementation. Perhaps some Jetspeed > team members might be willing to assist in producing such a proof. > I really don't think it necessary. I think the arguments and points > made in the thread speak for themselves.
Out of the current 20 messages in this thread, 12 are by you, and *nobody* has made a single reply to any of your messages. My point is that there is no real discussion here, and no significant progress or definitive conclusion. The only arguments I see are yours, and of course you agree with yourself ;-)
> If you read through all of the threads dealing with the issue you > will find examples of all of these things.
I have, and I am not convinced. There are many applications and framework (mostly commercial) that have attempted to reproduce the desktop application model by delegating more of the UI logic in Web browsers. My experience so far is that they have all pretty much failed, in that they have been fragile, browser-dependent, and have not significantly improved the usability of Web applications. Just my $0.02 though. So I need to be convinced, that's all.
-Erik
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