Mark Wrote..."Blue Ocean is not limited to multibranch Pipelines.  You can 
use the Blue Ocean editor to create a Pipeline in a git repository that has 
no Jenkinsfile on any branch."

Can someone point me to an example of this?  I have a GitHub repository 
with a master branch and a branch1 branch.  I used Blue Ocean, selected 
"new pipeline", selected to store the JenkinsFile in the Master, it created 
the pipeline.  When I select that particular new job, on the left hand 
side, it shows "Scan repository now, , ,Delete Multibranch Pipeline".  In 
other words, this is Multibranch pipeline.  Where is the option to use Blue 
Ocean to either create, or edit, a Non-MultiBranch pipeline?  What is it 
that I am missing or not understanding here?   

On Tuesday, August 6, 2019 at 12:07:24 PM UTC-4, Mark Waite wrote:
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> On Tue, Aug 6, 2019 at 9:36 AM Louis Elston <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> I believe that this is a bug.  What do I need to do to either get 
>> comments, or action on this?
>>
>>
> I believe it is not a bug.  Blue Ocean is not designed, tested, or 
> expected to work with a git repository on a local file system.  It is 
> designed, tested, and known to work with remote git servers, including 
> GitHub, Bitbucket, and plain Git.  A pull request is pending to include 
> Perforce support as well.
>
> Why doesn't Blue Ocean support git repositories on a local file system?  
> Git repositories on a local file system are only available from agents that 
> share the same file system.  Most Jenkins best practices include the 
> recommendation, "Do not run builds on the master, use an agent".  Running 
> builds on the master provides the executing job with full access to the 
> file system of the Jenkins master.
>
> Recommendation: Configure a git server and use that git server as your 
> repository.  A git server could be as simple as a Linux computer with a 
> shell account that hosts the bare repository or could include a web 
> interface with Gitea (my favorite for local installation) or Gitlab or 
> could use a remote repository (like GitHub, Bitbucket, Visual Studio, 
> Assembla, Beanstalk, Gitlab, etc.).
>
> For your multibranch question, you need a Jenkinsfile on every branch that 
> you want to run with a Pipeline from SCM.
>
> Blue Ocean is not limited to multibranch Pipelines.  You can use the Blue 
> Ocean editor to create a Pipeline in a git repository that has no 
> Jenkinsfile on any branch.
>
> The Jenkins community is a community.  Members of the community are 
> motivated by different things to decide whether they will respond or not.
>
> In this case, Jenkins 2.107.1 is 15 months old.  The Jenkins community 
> provides security updates for the current long term support release 
> (2.176.2) and current weekly release (2.187).  LTS releases every 3 
> months.  Jenkins 2.107.1 was released 16 months ago.  That is 5 LTS 
> releases ago.  Some hesitation to respond may be due to the outdated 
> version you're running.  There have been many improvements to Jenkins 
> Pipeline in the 5 LTS versions since Jenkins 2.107.1.
>
> There are many different ways that you can learn more about Jenkins 
> Pipeline.
>
>    - Tutorials -  https://jenkins.io/doc/tutorials/
>    - User Handbook -  https://jenkins.io/doc/book/pipeline/
>    - Jenkins Minute videos -  
>    https://jenkins.io/blog/2017/08/08/introducing-jenkins-minute/
>    - CloudBees' free Pipeline Fundamentals core -  
>    
> https://standard.cbu.cloudbees.com/cloudbees-university-jenkins-pipeline-fundamentals
>    - Udemy courses on Jenkins Pipeline -  
>    https://www.udemy.com/courses/search/?src=ukw&q=jenkins%20pipeline
>
> Mark Waite
>  
>
>> On Thursday, August 1, 2019 at 5:05:02 PM UTC-4, Louis Elston wrote:
>>>
>>> Studying and playing with pipelines.  I see that you can use Declarative 
>>> in the Pipeline Scrip window, but it still stores it in the config.xml 
>>> file.  And I have played with the combination of both Declarative and non 
>>> Declarative in the same script.
>>>
>>> I am trying to understand the Blue Ocean interface, the word 
>>> "MultiBranch" is throwing me a little.  We do not create test branches, and 
>>> them merge them back into the master.  In the repository, we have branches 
>>> for each release of the product, and we rarely go back to previous 
>>> branches\versions.  So, if I am working on branchV9 right now, do I also 
>>> need a Jenkinsfile in the Master branch, or any other of the previous 
>>> version branches?
>>>
>>> I have been playing with Blue Ocean (which only does MultiBranch 
>>> pipelines).  I am on a Windows system, Jenkins 2.176.2, and have all the 
>>> latest Blue Ocean plugins as of today (1.18.0).  I am accessing a local Git 
>>> repository (not GitHub), and am running into the following...
>>>
>>> If I try to use use “c:\GitRepos\Pipelines1\.git”, i get "not a valid 
>>> name"...
>>>
>>> [image: 1.PNG]
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: 2.PNG]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: 3.PNG]
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: 4.PNG]
>>>
>>>
>>> Why is this happening?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 29, 2019 at 11:40:56 AM UTC-4, Louis Elston wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 07/17/19 – wrote this…
>>>>
>>>> We are currently using Windows \ Jenkins 2.107.1 (no pipeline), and I 
>>>> am researching going to pipeline. We have a nightly build job, that 
>>>> fetches 
>>>> from repositories, and submits and waits on other jobs. I see 9 jobs 
>>>> running on the same Master node (we only have a master), at the same time. 
>>>> I am not clear on if we should have one Jenkinsfile or multiple 
>>>> Jenkinsfiles. It will not be a multibranch pipeline, as we do not create 
>>>> test branches and then merge back to a master. In the repository we have 
>>>> product1.0 branch, product2.0 branch etc., and build only one branch (the 
>>>> latest one). While I do like the Blue Ocean editor, it is only for 
>>>> MultiBranch pipelines.
>>>>
>>>> Looking for directions and\or examples on how to convert existing 
>>>> Jenkins non-pipeline systems, to pipeline.  I did find this…
>>>> https://wiki.jenkins.io/display/JENKINS/Convert+To+Pipeline+Plugin. It 
>>>> does help a little in that it gives you some converted steps, but cannot 
>>>> convert all the steps, and will give comments in the pipeline script 
>>>> "//Unable to convert a build step referring to...please verify and convert 
>>>> manually if required." There is an option "Recursively convert downstream 
>>>> jobs if any" and if you select that, it appears to add all the downstream 
>>>> jobs to the same pipeline script, and really confuses the job parameters. 
>>>> There is also an option to "Commit JenkinsFile" (if doing declarative). I 
>>>> will play with this some more, but it is not the be all and end all of 
>>>> converting to pipeline, and I still am not sure of whether I should be 
>>>> have 
>>>> one or more scripts.
>>>>
>>>> Added 07/26/19 - Let’s see if I have my research to date correct…
>>>>
>>>> A Declarative pipeline (Pipeline Script from SCM), is stored in a 
>>>> Jenkinsfile in the repository. Every time that this Jenkins job is 
>>>> executed, a fetch from the repository is done (to get the latest version 
>>>> of 
>>>> the Jenkinsfile).
>>>>
>>>> A Pipeline script is stored as part of the config.xml file in the 
>>>> Jenkins\Jobs folder (it is not stored in the repository, or in a separate 
>>>> Jenkinsfile in the jobs folder). There is a fetch from the repository only 
>>>> if you put it in (you do not need to do a repository fetch to get the 
>>>> Pipeline script).
>>>>
>>>> Besides our nightly product build, we also have other jobs. I could 
>>>> create a separate Declarative Jenkinsfile for each of them (JenkinsfileA, 
>>>> JenkinsfileB, etc.) for each of the other jobs and store then in the 
>>>> repository also (in the same branch as the main Jenkinsfile), but that 
>>>> would mean that every one of those additional jobs, to get the particular 
>>>> Jenkinsfile for that job, would also need to do a repository fetch 
>>>> (basically fetching\cloning the repository branch for each job, and have 
>>>> multiple versions of the repository branch unnecessarily downloaded to the 
>>>> workspace of each job).
>>>>
>>>> That does not make sense to me (unless my understanding of things to 
>>>> date is incorrect). Because the main product build does require a fetch 
>>>> every time it is run (to get any possible developer check-ins), I do not 
>>>> see a problem doing Declarative Jenkinsfile for that job. For the other 
>>>> jobs (if we do not leave then for the time being in the classic 
>>>> (non-pipeline) format)), they will be Pipeline scripts.
>>>>
>>>> Is there any way of (or plans for), being able to do Declarative 
>>>> pipeline without having to store in the repository and doing a fetch every 
>>>> time (lessening the need to become a Groovy developer)? The Blue Ocean 
>>>> script editor appears to be an easier tool to use to create pipeline 
>>>> scripts, but it is only for MultiBranch pipelines (which we don’t do).
>>>>
>>>> Serialization (restarting a job), is that only for when a node goes 
>>>> down, or can you restart a pipeline job (Declarative or Scripted), from 
>>>> any 
>>>> point if it fails?
>>>>
>>>> I see that there are places to look to see what Jenkins plugin’s have 
>>>> been ported to pipeline, but is there anything that can be run to look at 
>>>> the classic jobs that you have, to determine up front which jobs are going 
>>>> to have problems being converted to pipeline (non supported plugins)?
>>>>
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