On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 2:17 PM, Daniel Beck <m...@beckweb.net> wrote:
>
>>> There is no "issue affecting it". Again: You get the documentation on the
>>> backwards-compatibility-breaking change to build layout when you upgrade.
>>> It's not like there's a path to get into this situation where you're never
>>> shown any information about this change.
>>
>> Apparently that wasn't the case for the original poster here.
>
> Well, yes, there's little that can be done when users _choose_ not to read
> the changelog, or the warnings shown when Jenkins start up.
>
What warnings would you see if installed 1.599 as your first version -
and why would you be concerned about its changelog? And subsequently
after running it, you decide it is too unstable and you need the LTS
version.
> Or are you asking for the upgrade process to be made more cumbersome by e.g.
> having to click through the web site?
Is LTS an upgrade or not? I think of it that way, but developers
probably do not. But in any case, users should be warned before they
even _think_ about installing a version that will cause pain if they
need to back out the change.
>>> It's shown earlier than relevant in this case, but if you ever read it,
>>> you'll understand that downgrading is more effort than usual.
>>
>> So, shouldn't that be pointed out on the LTS page since someone
>> starting there would very likely be downgrading?
>
> I already addressed that downgrading in not supported (the part of your email
> you didn't quote and respond to), so what should the changelog point out?
> "Don't downgrade to this LTS release from any version newer than 1.596"?
Is installing the latest available release of LTS a downgrade? But
yes, you should absolutely say on the main LTS page not to install it
as a downgrade from an existing non-LTS version until the LTS release
version number at least matches what you are currently running. I'm
pretty sure that's the way I did it, but I understood the situation
from being on the mail list for some time seeing the version-related
issues people have with jenkins. The point of having an LTS version
should be to help users avoid problems and if it is too much to ask to
explicitly list the known/breaking changes that installing LTS will
trip over, then at least a generic warning should be in order.
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Les Mikesell
lesmikes...@gmail.com
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