On Monday, 10 March 2014, Les Mikesell <lesmikes...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Stephen Connolly > <stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote: > > > > Take care to note that in my original vision I did not assume Type 2 was > > bound to Jenkins, only bound to *a* CI system... Then I said how literate > > was my vision of solving the problem *for* Jenkins. > > But conceptually, a CI system should just integrate and automate the > stuff that would already work as separate steps that you could run > without it. Or you are introducing magic instead of integration. > > > This falls back to my philosophy for tools (which you may know if you > follow > > the maven lists) namely, don't force the user to stick with your tool if > you > > can help it. Let them try other tools and stick with you *because* you > are > > the best, not because they've been locked in. > > > > That is how I see tools being successful and staying so... If I am > > successful with my vision, maven 4 will lure you back in and reward you > for > > experimenting with it (even if you don't stay... Though we'd prefer if > you > > do ;-) ) > > Experimenting is easier and more likely to go forward if it doesn't > require infrastructure changes. > > >> Is there a standalone literate-builder that the developer can > >> run/test/debug on his own without jenkins support? > > > > > > Yes but very very bare bones (literate-cli) and I am not sure how far mic > > got with it! > > I'd expect much faster acceptance with a full standalone version that > did exactly the same things except from a checked out local workspace. > I wouldn't expect people to write make/cmake/project(etc.) files > without the ability to run/test them locally before committing and > don't see much difference here (except maybe automatic branch tracking > for other versions). Remember literate is just a verbatim statement of the command(s) to type in. The only magic the Jenkins literate plugin adds is around conceptualising those commands within Jenkins You don't need to install anything to look at a README.md and type in commands ;-) > -- > Les Mikesell > lesmikes...@gmail.com <javascript:;> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Jenkins Users" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to jenkinsci-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <javascript:;>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Sent from my phone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Jenkins Users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to jenkinsci-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
